Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 (edited) Can someone please help with this? I have been trying to find this online - Lowe did a 2 part Interview with Solent back in November 07 concerning his thoughts on the regime at that time (bear in mind it was Hone etc in charge). Would be interested in hearing his comments again...I seem to remember he declared that he had 'no intention of ever returning'. Ahem... Can anyone find it online? I've tried searching on the BBC iPlayer but no luck so far. Edited 23 February, 2009 by Channon's Sideburns Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Can someone help with this? I have been trying to find this online - Lowe did a 2 part Interview with Solent back in November 07 concerning his thoughts on the regime at that time (bear in mind it was Hone etc in charge). Would be interested in hearing his comments again...I seem to remember he declared that he had 'no intention of ever returning'. Ahem... Can anyone find it online? I've tried searching on the BBC iPlayer but no luck so far. Does please not exist in your vocabulary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Does please not exist in your vocabulary? Oh...pretty please..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 I think we have the crux of your next thread should you find it, so why not start before you find it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 How much does Lowe or SLH pay you JFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Yeah JFP...how much are they paying you to discuss black pudding on the interweb? Because i wouldn't mind getting in on that little deal if possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 How much does Lowe or SLH pay you JFP. Not one single penny, AND still you miss the point. It is not about what my own personal opinions are on the current board (who I would love to see leave by the way) but on the same people saying the same things every day. Christ, you even managed to twist a post purely about the predicability of a posters thread to mean that I must be pro-Lowe. You really need some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Yeah JFP...how much are they paying you to discuss black pudding on the interweb? Because i wouldn't mind getting in on that little deal if possible... That's your problem, you see. When you say "black pudding" like that, it is so obvious you love Lowe. That is your downfall. I laugh at you for not even realising yourself that you love Lowe by default based on your black pudding opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 It would be very interesting to see the details of what Lowe said in the interview and how they compare to what has happened since his return. For me the Radio interview was the starting point of his return, despite saying in it that he had no interest in coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 That's your problem, you see. When you say "black pudding" like that, it is so obvious you love Lowe. That is your downfall. I laugh at you for not even realising yourself that you love Lowe by default based on your black pudding opinions. Can't stop mentioning his name can you? It must be lurvvve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 JFP,considering the amount of time you spend defending Lowe,it is hardly surprising that you are considered a Lowe luvvie. And your protestations to the contrary are hardly evidence,whereas your posted opinions or paid propaganda are a matter of record. Seems strange that you seem to be available at a moments notice to step in to defend the desolate one the instant a possibly negative thread or post appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 JFP,considering the amount of time you spend defending Lowe,it is hardly surprising that you are considered a Lowe luvvie. And your protestations to the contrary are hardly evidence,whereas your posted opinions or paid propaganda are a matter of record. Seems strange that you seem to be available at a moments notice to step in to defend the desolate one the instant a possibly negative thread or post appears. The biggest joke here is that you actually think I am paid to have a balanced opinion. Wake up matey. I do not defend Lowe, I merely do not mention something negative about him every time I post on here. The reason I don't is a/ because it is boring b/because he isn't the only useless bloke we have had in charge and c/ there are enough muppets on here already doing just that. Yes, I play devils advocate a lot with regard to Lowe as to be perfectly honest he would have been blamed for the Bubonic Plague, AIDS and ASDA's rotten apples by now if people didn't question it. Hey, get your head around this one. It's a forum, for debate. If you want a Love In with all your anti-Lowe mates then why not all meet up somewhere and play mummy and daddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Funny how the luvvies would like to stifle debate and have us majority negatives go elsewhere so that they could have their own uninterrupted luv-in. You would appear to have the same dictatorial tendencies as your master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Oh...pretty please..... well done, costs nothing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 JFP,considering the amount of time you spend defending Lowe,it is hardly surprising that you are considered a Lowe luvvie. And your protestations to the contrary are hardly evidence,whereas your posted opinions or paid propaganda are a matter of record. Seems strange that you seem to be available at a moments notice to step in to defend the desolate one the instant a possibly negative thread or post appears. Can't stop mentioning his name can you? It must be lurvvve... No offence guys but shut the f**k up please? The constant bickering amongst fans accusing eachother of being pro-lowe is getting pathetic now. How about we try uniting as a fanbase and try using the one thing we agree on (our love for the club) to get behind the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 SK,depends on your point of view. IMO and many others,every gramme of succour for Lowe from whichever quarter make it harder to rid this club of the cancer that he is. It is like saying don't kill the german soldiers,Hitler is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 But what annoys me is the constant need to accuse anyone who dares to think anything other than the general consensus of the fans of being a "Lowe-Luvvie". How dare people have different opinions or play devil's advocate? Using your analogy, we are accusing fellow soldiers of being Nazi's just because they are questioning our reasoning or trying to see things from the the German soldier's P.O.V. I also think it takes thing a BIT far to compare Lowe to Hitler ... And no before you ask I am NOT a Lowe-Luvvie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 SK,the problem with the likes of JFP is that they seem to seek out the negative posts to rebut,whereas those of us ant-Lowes generally just comment when we come across contra-opinions in the course of our usual trawling of threads. If you look at this thread from the beginning you will see this clearly in JFPs interjection. As for the comparison of Lowe and Hitler,i would suggest the only difference being timing and opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Haha. I suppose. I just wish we could have one thread on this forum where we all agreed on something and resisted the urge to argue amongst ourselves. Anyway that's my 3 posts for the day until I can get my full membership sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Nice to hear from you SK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Can someone please help with this? I have been trying to find this online - Lowe did a 2 part Interview with Solent back in November 07 concerning his thoughts on the regime at that time (bear in mind it was Hone etc in charge). Would be interested in hearing his comments again...I seem to remember he declared that he had 'no intention of ever returning'. Ahem... Can anyone find it online? I've tried searching on the BBC iPlayer but no luck so far. If the riff raff can clear the line, then here's some links. This is The Echo's taks on the Solent interview. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/1881176.Lowe_blasts_those_who_helped_force_him_out/ And this is the Echo's follow up to the interview: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/1887631.Lowe_guilty_of_ignoring_financial_realities_of_relegation_he_presided_over/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 SK,the problem with the likes of JFP is that they seem to seek out the negative posts to rebut,whereas those of us ant-Lowes generally just comment when we come across contra-opinions in the course of our usual trawling of threads. If you look at this thread from the beginning you will see this clearly in JFPs interjection. As for the comparison of Lowe and Hitler,i would suggest the only difference being timing and opportunity. you've lost the plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 (edited) Funny how the luvvies would like to stifle debate and have us majority negatives go elsewhere so that they could have their own uninterrupted luv-in. You would appear to have the same dictatorial tendencies as your master. Hang on. You came on here and had a go at me, accusing me of being on the Lowe pay role and then back off saying how Lowe supporters stifle debate. That is exactly what you did by starting all this. An opinion was made, you didnt agree so you played silly games. Dont talk about dictational tendencies when you are one of the least tolerant people when it comes to others opinions. Edited 23 February, 2009 by JohnnyFartPants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 (edited) SK,the problem with the likes of JFP is that they seem to seek out the negative posts to rebut,whereas those of us ant-Lowes generally just comment when we come across contra-opinions in the course of our usual trawling of threads. If you look at this thread from the beginning you will see this clearly in JFPs interjection. As for the comparison of Lowe and Hitler,i would suggest the only difference being timing and opportunity. You just dont like balance. You take issue with anyone that questions anything that you or another anti-Lowe type spouts off about. Its almost as if you fear a debate as it means you may have to perform more than the average knuckle dragging routine of just saying Lowe eats babies or whatever the next bowl of crap might be. Have a think for one minute about what you just typed. My problem is I seek out negative comments to rebut? Really? You mean like an actual debate? If you just want yes men to back you up and make you feel right all the time and unchallenged when you have a view then might I suggest you start a thread and in the title put a bracketted (Y) for yes in there. Edited 23 February, 2009 by JohnnyFartPants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 It was you JFP who suggested that us anti-Lowes go and set up somewhere else on our own,so that is not trying to stifle debate on here ? It was you who jumped on this thread immediately,a simple request for information about where the OP could obtain a transcript of a Lowe interview,goading the OP. I have never told people not to post or go elsewhere,i just debate or argue,and occasionally insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 It was you JFP who suggested that us anti-Lowes go and set up somewhere else on our own,so that is not trying to stifle debate on here ? It was you who jumped on this thread immediately,a simple request for information about where the OP could obtain a transcript of a Lowe interview,goading the OP. I have never told people not to post or go elsewhere,i just debate or argue,and occasionally insult. I see you have gone as far back as suits your agenda, yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Can i have my thread back please??? Cheers for the links Um... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 February, 2009 RUPERT Lowe last night blasted Saints' non-executive directors for their role in the situation the club finds itself in. The former chairman said he did not blame the executives for the "decline" at Saints since he was forced to resign back in June 2006. But in his first major interview since leaving the club, Lowe said "the (executive) management needs to be debated" and called his ousting by the Michael Wilde regime "an injustice." Lowe also said he and his former board allies - who still own around a quarter of all the Southampton Leisure Holdings shares - are not obstructing a potential deal with London-based hedge fund Sisu. He did add, though, that he was still waiting to receive "formal documentation" from Sisu before deciding whether their proposals were worth supporting. Lowe also defended his own record as Saints chairman, pointing to the building of St Mary's and the strengthening of the academy. "In my time as chairman we were financially prudent, we made sure we had enough cash to cover our costs and we invested in the academy," said Lowe. "The long-term planning of the old board has not been continued. "The management team have not managed the club well. "I built the stadium, I built up the academy - that was my brainchild. "I am the last person who wants to see anything happen to the club." Saints' current financial situation - the club is estimated to be losing around £1m a month - "is not sustainable long term. It has been sustainable so far by selling the club's best players. "Kenwyne Jones, Gareth Bale and Chris Baird went last summer and there's been others like Martin Cranie and Dexter Blackstock." Chief executive Jim Hone and operations manager Lee Hoos were the people Wilde placed in charge of the day-to-day running of Saints after Lowe and his No 2 Andrew Cowen resigned. Lowe added: "The management needs to be debated - I don't blame the current management, they were put in place by Michael Wilde, Leon Crouch, Patrick Trant, Mary Corbett, Lawrie McMenemy. "They (executive management team) have been let down by the non executive directors. Promises were broken." Lowe mentioned a "smear campaign" waged against him and also made reference to Wilde's manifesto Planning for Success'. "There's more untruths in there than any document I've ever read," said Lowe. Back at St Mary's last night to watch Saints' goalless draw with Sheffield Wednesday, Lowe obviously remains hurt by the events which forced him to quit. "What happened 18 months ago was an injustice. It has not served the club well," he stated. "Instead of asking questions of me, you should be asking Michael Wilde why he did not put any money in. "You should be asking Leon Crouch why he decided to vote for Michael Wilde. "You should be asking Keith Wiseman, Ian Gordon and Paul Thompson, all people who voted for the current administration. "All I have done is watched quietly from the sidelines for 18 months. "My blood pressure has returned to normal and I haven't had people shouting at me. "But the club has declined in that time. There is a lack of purpose and a lack of common objectives. "It's not surprising that the football has not been going well." -------- So nice to know that Rupert is still as reflective now eh?? 'I built this, I built that'...hmmm you mean the Academy that was a Premier League requirement...not to mention a Youth Policy that was in place 20 years before? Or a stadium that was built with debt that is causing us potential terminal financial problems? Financially prudent?? You mean like the warchest that didn't actually exist?? Nice to know his blood pressure improved though. Perhaps the cheeks were back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I think we have the crux of your next thread should you find it, so why not start before you find it? JFP, at least you can never be doubted as to what I want to see happen..no hidden agendas on my part. I have stated numerous times that my judgement on Lowe and Wilde is based SOLELY on their performance since May 2008. That is the only fair way to assess them - they want to forget their past differences, so I can't see how they can have a problem with being assessed that way. I just think that Lowe's interview then was the catalyst for what we have now - he had no intention of taking a back seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 JFP, at least you can never be doubted as to what I want to see happen..no hidden agendas on my part. I have stated numerous times that my judgement on Lowe and Wilde is based SOLELY on their performance since May 2008. That is the only fair way to assess them - they want to forget their past differences, so I can't see how they can have a problem with being assessed that way. I just think that Lowe's interview then was the catalyst for what we have now - he had no intention of taking a back seat. Good job too. That would leave Wilde out in front on his own!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Good job too. That would leave Wilde out in front on his own!! Oh dear...SFC would be like a Launderette then though....the machines are on but the manager can't be found.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 SK,depends on your point of view. IMO and many others,every gramme of succour for Lowe from whichever quarter make it harder to rid this club of the cancer that he is. It is like saying don't kill the german soldiers,Hitler is the problem. Are you saying that it is a case of kill or be killed? An interesting analogy given that we are talking about a man who is doing what he thinks best for 'the cause' (not the group), whereas the other wanted world domination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Oh dear...SFC would be like a Launderette then though....the machines are on but the manager can't be found.... What I do like about you is you allow someone to have an opposite opinion to yourself without having to resort to personal abuse. I find that quite refreshing and it stops me thinking you are mentally deficient and running out of genuine points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 February, 2009 What I do like about you is you allow someone to have an opposite opinion to yourself without having to resort to personal abuse. I find that quite refreshing and it stops me thinking you are mentally deficient and running out of genuine points. Cheers..for the record I suppose I am mentally deficient in a way, for some reason I won't give up on Saints although they have been a constant source of stress during my life...however the highs when they happen are even better. It could be worse...we could all be sheep and follow Chelski or Southerners United. Personal Abuse should be reserved for Politicians who are not in contact with the real world on their £65k salaries, expenses, 2nd homes...who are immune to this foookin recession that they helped create by their inability to make swift decisions. Oops...sidetracked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Cheers..for the record I suppose I am mentally deficient in a way, for some reason I won't give up on Saints although they have been a constant source of stress during my life...however the highs when they happen are even better. It could be worse...we could all be sheep and follow Chelski or Southerners United. Personal Abuse should be reserved for Politicians who are not in contact with the real world on their £65k salaries, expenses, 2nd homes...who are immune to this foookin recession that they helped create by their inability to make swift decisions. Oops...sidetracked... Can't argue on that. Oh, and I honestly think stability is returning to Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 As for the comparison of Lowe and Hitler,i would suggest the only difference being timing and opportunity. I read it all now! Unbelievable ********! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Whilst I'm not a Lowe fan I do have to say the following: SMS was a neccessity, we'd probably be in the BSP if we'd stayed at the Dell and we certainly wouldn't have enjoyed the WGS era. The stadium mortgage is actually perfectly sustainable and Lowe did project manage it on budget and time. Whilst the academy was a requirement, Lowe did promote it and fund it well which he deserves credit for. What he shouldn't have done was to have increased the overhead cost of it in 05/06 when our income had sharply dropped - this was bad business sense and the Dome has hurt the club badly when the Academy already cost over £3m p.a in 2005. Wilde does deserve the stick he gets in that article and he appointed some people that worsened the mess Rupert left. Wilde is the one who got into bed with Lowe and deserves the ire from the fans. Everyone on here knows I'm not a Lowe fan at all but it's easier to present our case for the current board to go if we stick to some form of balance and let some of the most one-eyed Lowe postings (ie Sundance) speak for themselves in their nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I read it all now! Unbelievable ********! No, but seriously my Shrove Tuesday friend, they are near identical. One of them is not very good at running a football club and the other one created a holocaust whereby millions of Jews died. The similarities are pretty much identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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