Fabrice29

Where are those murmurings ffs? Anyway, Sibley, Pinder, or just a bloke in his front room, I'm not pro another managerial change.

Whilst this is true, the manager is most likely to go, at some point we are going to have to explore the other option.

Keep making the same joke in all the different threads. One day someone might understand it and laugh.

Probably worth remembering their lack of professionalism and manager got us to the PL last time we were in this league

Apart from the fact that the idea Will Still is being told to play 5 at the back is quite obviously complete bollocks as well as the ‘those in the know’ line, the fact that Goztepe are riding high in Turkey means we should probably explore getting Rasmus to be more involved here again and give us some advice. Maybe even get him to appoint Nathan Jones again as he’s doing well.

Neither of these having done anything worthy of note recently. Honestly, if we’re calling for a new manager can we have some ambition and imagination please.

Because it’s funny? They are managers with who in their most recent jobs failed quite miserably. They now spend their time popping around podcasts being sniffy at modern football without being questioned on their own records. There’s very little to suggest they are what the club needs nor they would in any way suit the club. And the biggest example of that is the manager we’ve currently got seemed to sight a side that one of those two managed as one he enjoyed watching as a kid and seemingly has installed equally as basic tactics at his time here and it’s failed miserably. But because he’s young people seem to think he’s being too clever. Thats probably why people laugh.

Could and should have stopped here. Or as Will Still put it on Friday ‘big club ain’t it?’. Radio host in talking absolute waffle to fill silence, shock. Blokes a proper muppet and then plays dumb and defensive when people call him out on it.

I could probably find the exact same post you made about Nathan Jones for example who I think is currently sitting 6th in our league? Sometimes, people aren't complete shit, or not knowing what they are doing but instead results just aren't going right and time might change that rather than changing manager again.

I would agree and disagree with this in some aspects. Think you’ve made some fair points regarding selections and the amount of changes made but would also argue that if we had finished all of those one on ones yesterday that people could legit argue that would have shown a different tactical plan than overlaps and getting it in the mixer. That’s where he’s let down by the outcome of his finishers. But, this is what happens when managers who pride themselves on results and sell themselves as adaptable and pragmatic, lose matches. They’ve got nothing else to point to because they’ve specifically asked to be judged on nothing else. He’s not done himself any favours when he’s first joined and subtly played to the crowd by dismissing Martins credibility here. And in line with your other thread, I hope people are seeing that actually he did a decent job here, in this league and scoring goals and winning matches isn’t something we should take for granted. I get the frustration at Still but still can’t quite agree that a new manager suddenly gets our attackers to be efficient or our defence to stop doing stupid stuff. I’d like to see us address that properly over some transfer windows first.

Fair point and we absolutely should be better but we’re not the only ones underperforming with good squads for this league. Leicester and Ipswich, one of those with a manager who I assume people would want here, are also underperforming and as usual are slightly better than us. Sheffield United despite bringing backs ‘experienced championship manager’ aren’t much better for it. I can’t agree that a manager is solely responsible for our form right now. Think underperforming players should take the brunt of the fault and a manager should be given more than just one window to solve those issues. At what point do we actually give a manager some time to ride out the bad moments at this club? Or do we just keep sacking them after some bad form each season?

Do I? Pretty sure my post was just an incredibly basic explanation of it for people who didn’t understand it but I’m happy to be pointed in the direction where I’ve concluded that either the right amount of stock or not enough stock has been afforded in it during the post.

Out of interest, what is it about the 4 managers we’ve had this year that makes you think a 5th one is going to suddenly get an improvement?

Yeah so like I said people deliberately choose not to understand XG and an incredibly basic point about it won’t appease those people. Not sure at any point did I try and endorse our team, club or approach in that post. But thanks for replying anyway.

I think you’ve quoted the wrong post or read the wrong words

Is it because for two years now everyone, including Adam and Joe, has been moaning about our defensive woes? Those two are proper plonkers

There are people who deliberately refuse to understand XG so this very basic and small explanation will not appease those but a helpful thing to remember with XG is a penalty is generally considered about 0.75/0.8. So given that’s a one on one, stationary shot, no defenders, keeper on his line etc, then one on ones like we had yesterday would be less than that. Also notice footmob have us at 1.67 XG so different sources have us at different figures.

Yeah I think they expect him back before January though.

I’ll be surprised/disappointed if we’re not making a push for Pierce Charles given he’s been at games recently and we’ll want his brother to stay.

No. I asked for evidence. The idea of someone deliberately playing badly so he's not picked again does seem slightly far fetched though.

That is just pure hyperbole

Sorry but where is the evidence for any of this narrative? Is it really all based on one comment from Juric about Downes, which he rowed back on a couple of weeks or so later on and stuck him back in the team?

Nathan Jones first talked about the squad needing better characters and personality. Probably wasn't far away from saying cunt himself before he was sacked. Every manager since has pretty much talked about the squad lacking leadership when justifying bringing back Stephens. Personally, I'd get Downes back in the side at least until January.

Suspect it’s a dressing room that is used to losing and naturally fractured because of that. And that’s before you even remember that since Ralph gutted the squad of anyone being able to think for themselves that almost every manager since has bemoaned the lack of leadership and personality within the dressing room and ends up having to bring Jack Stephen’s back into the side.

Saying you sympathise with him and also worry who we’d appoint after sacking him is exactly why you wouldn’t sack him surely? No point making a decision like that for the sake of it.