Fabrice29

Because I thought the job he did here was good up until last season and then I don’t think he’s the main reason we were so bad. Does that make sense to you or would you like me to spell it out more patronisingly?

I’m not convinced we did anything particularly different in the play offs than we did in the rest of the season personally, but that’s an idea that people find baffling on here as well. I’m also not convinced doing anything differently than the way we did it in the PL would have got us particularly better results either, and I’d suggest the two managers who struggled after him records would suggest that as would the 3 managers with us in the PL before him. But anyway, that’s an age old debate I’ve obviously had on here and it’s too late to do it again tonight.

Yeah well I haven’t blindly defended him, got personally offended, ever met him or a family member of his. Apart from that though, good stuff.

It feels like that ‘incredible run’ you mentioned would be considered real consistency but I suppose it’s subjective. And yes, there were plenty of people who decided they didn’t enjoy it or it wasn’t going well etc but the facts we scored a hell of a lot of goals, won quite a lot of games and ultimately had a successful season that year. If you can’t enjoy a season like that then I feel sorry for you because taking a season like that for granted shouldn’t be done. We finished behind the 2 teams we’d finished behind the season prior and beat one of them in the most important game of the season and also of course behind Ipswich. We didn’t fall over the line, we finished fourth and stepped up in the pressure moment. Last season was obviously a shit show. I’m not convinced he’s the main reason for that personally but it’s subjective and if people want to call him a vegan cunt for that because they think it’s funny then good for them. I think obsessively watching his teams in the hope they lose and you can quickly fire a minute by minute report of it on a messageboard is a bit strange. Especially when you consider our new managers thread took a month or so to go through the amount of pages this has tonight. But the idea that the Championship is just a foregone conclusion and Martin nearly fucked it up is wrong. Fingers crossed this season goes smoothly and allows people to continue that narrative obviously but I’ll be as equally as impressed by Still if he gets us up with the ease everyone expected Martin to do and makes it even more exciting with all the goals we’ll no doubt score.

Using vegan as an insult is right up there with using the letter "w" as one. It's really witty stuff. Lets cry about that your sense of humour instead shall we.

About what you wally?

Compared to the two managers after him it stood up fine. I'm not getting into this debate again though.

Can I be nasty about your "wussel" joke in return? Or the minute by minute report on here every time his team gets beat? I don't care for his time at Rangers so I've no interest in defending his work there. His work here, especially in the Championship, stands up well though and people trying to rewrite that or delude themselves into thinking they didn't enjoy it do deserve to continue to be called out though.

2 pages ffs

Yeah, well in your hypothetical world you’ve proven your point.

I’m not comparing why I’d be slightly more happy immediately if we signed Haaland than if we signed Fellows or Spertsyan with you.

Well I’ve seen Haaland play for a start so I’d probably applaud too. Fair play, you’ve won me over.

Then again 🤣

I’m not entirely sure I agree that we should be judging Spors on how well signings fit into the team and when considering that’s Stills job but I am glad you agree that seeing players play first is decent way of judging them.

Nobody is saying you can’t have an opinion you dafty. It’s talk of ‘big two weeks to prove his worth’ as if the end of the window is judgement day that’s stupid. Especially when you caveat that with ‘although admittedly if I haven’t heard of them and they turn out to be good then my judgement is void’ 🤣

You’re going to make judgements on Spors and players in two weeks predominantly based on a maximum of 4 competitive games, some YouTube videos that have been edited badly/well, internet messageboard/twitter opinions and/or whether you’ve heard of them and the people just reminding you that’s a bit rash and there’s a whole season to play out yet are the oddballs. Cool.

Yeah and I’m saying don’t judge him at the end of the window. Judge him when the season has panned out. Slagging him off at the end of the window because you don’t like the names we’ve signed is daft considering you’d have seen them play 4 times at most by then?

You’ve literally concluded Downs and Quashie will both be solid squad players but won’t play every week and stated Spors a couple of weeks to prove your doubts wrong. So yes, you have.

You’ve probably never knowingly seen him play so you have no idea of his quality. They’ve played at most 2 full games and you’ve made wild conclusions about their squad role this season. Don’t judge people in charge of recruitment at the end of August.

Weird because the consensus on here was Martin ruined his career here and forced him out by signing his mate Manning.

Okay, my bad. You don't watch any PL football or any of the sky coverage. Good for you

It literally does appear in those numbers. Again, if you cant be pleased with games like that, you're setting yourself up for a miserable season.

Perhaps. Weird time to make a random out of the blue post about the coverage he's not watched but yeah, perhaps.

I think pretending to not watch something you've clearly watched and have strong thoughts about is a bit weirder

It's okay to admit you watch it and still don't like the people on it.