Fabrice29

We've had two bad games in a row. Honestly, this fan base is so ridiculous Fuck it, get another one in and give him 6 games as well, why not.

So much wrong and hysterical about this post but I've bolded a few of my favourites. Just love the idea you can't coach good possession based football and that nobody outside of City tries it, despite being in a league won last year by a team literally who were lauded for it. Also love the idea that we get back to basic and simple football and not only will the players perform but the crowd will love it despite having one of the most basic managers around just a few months ago and the fans booing him off every week because guess what...the players weren't performing. Glorious.

3 different managers with 3 different tactics in the past 8 months but yeeeeeeaaaa, tactics!

Burnley had kept 1 clean sheet this time last season. Also won twice. They obviously weren't wide open like we are but they weren't an end product. We're 6 games in. Good teams don't just happen and they also don't change everything after 2 or 3 bad games.

Final thing on this whole thing now but this narrative just isn't true is it? We've scored quite a few goals this season. Our issues are clearly the mistakes on the ball and the defending off it. I don't think the "sideways" narrative is fair based on the fact that we're much more entertaining in an attacking sense than we've been for a long time now. We just need better goal scorers and to sort out the defensive side. I don't think we're passing it sideways or for the sake of having possession at all.

Stephens, Bednarek, Armstrong, Adams. These have been central to a team that has learnt how to lose for a few years now. I'd much rather we washed our hands with them but somehow one is captain, one is a first choice starting CB, one is vice captain and moved into a position he's not played before while being simultaneously applauded because he runs around a lot and one is considered someone that this club couldn't sell by fans. It's bizarre we've made these people central to our team, and that's both a fan and manager problem. I'd probably throw Sulemana into that too as he's weirdly idolised despite performing well in a very small amount of games for us but his sample size is much smaller.

Our defensive issues have been clear for years and two of the main perpetrators of that are now captain and first choice CB in many peoples eyes. We have bigger issues than a manager.

I'm not saying it's the fans fault. I'm saying this is quite clearly a new set up and it deserves some patience from the fans and the fans not showing that patience doesn't help. I agree it's not the fans fault, I think some of the players who seem to be consistently picked and in idolised by both fans and managers really should take the most blame fwiw.

I think it's 6 games into a whole new way of playing. The first 3 of those games went well. Norwich also had a really good atmosphere about it despite it being full of errors and goals conceded like last night but the difference was the goals we scored. The last two games have obviously gone terribly but the atmosphere has changed far too dramatically for such a small sample size. I don't think there's much difference between Norwich and Leicester other than Adams and Armstrong once again returned to being unable to finish. I think fans shouldn't be so outcome based and should realise that we need some patience and maybe some encouragement during bad moments, rather than getting on the players back immediately, especially young ones. Like i've said, it's a connection thing and the fans have been really really quick to throw the good will from the first few games into the air but I think it's uncalled for.

We were in the top six until the end of the game last night fwiw.

No, but last night we conceded after twenty seconds and most of the crowd was quiet and part of it was obsessed at Vardy daring to celebrate. There's no encouragement, no idea of getting behind them, it's just an inevitability about it. Which would be fine but then it's quickly followed up with anger when Bazunu dares to pass to a defender the next time he gets it. I don't think the players are help themselves obviously, and I have serious issues with certain ones, but I also don't think the fans are particularly helpful either. Even if you cba to encourage, I feel the desperation to be angry at a short pass is genuinely creating a harmful atmosphere.

It's not his team though is it, really? Like you say, he's had 6 games. That's not a barometer for anyone, despite what this fan base seems to think and has given other managers. He's had 2 weeks since the end of a very active transfer window and one of those most of them were away on international duty.

You know Brentford set up corners exactly the same way as we did yesterday don't you? Or they certainly used to, and it worked, and they were praised for it and they had an environment where they were encouraged to do it by both manager and fans who trusted each other. I think that specific example is a sample of a wider issue we have.

I think fans are some of the problem yes. You say compliant but all I see and hear during games is restfulness. Which is some what understandable considering I've spent years spending money on season tickets and barely seen us win but here we have a manager and an idea that is completely different to what we experienced before and is already producing more entertaining football and it's only been 6 games but the fan base loses it's shit when the keeper (who might be the best passer of the ball in the defence) dares to either pass to his centre back or waits a couple of seconds before picking out a long ball. It's bizarre, there's no patience, there's no thought that maybe we need to encourage them to be better at it rather than mocking them for doing it. No wonder players look tepid in their play at times, they've got a manager all week encouraging them to play a certain way but once they do it and it doesn't quite click straight away they've got 20k plus people screaming at them. There's no connection and there hasn't been since Ralph, I think that's a fan base not really knowing what it wants or letting a new manager take them to a place they don't feel comfortable in.

I think fans are massively out of touch with what the team is trying to do and incredibly quick to throw managers and their ideas under the bus without really trying to go with them. I don't think this manager, team and ideas deserve the panicky unrest that happens both during and between games when things aren't going well. Fans don't really know what they want, other than results and aren't prepared to show the patience to maybe get there. I also really cannot fathom why we as a fan base idolise players who consistently under perform but that's not just a fan thing, the manager seems to be picking the specific players I'm on about too (although he's new and will hopefully learn soon).

Manager under pressure really early again is it? How many more managers will it take for us to look at something else as the issue out of interest? FWIW, I don't think there is much of an issue and a complete change in way of playing will always have teething problems but all those that seem to think this guy is the issue, as was Selles and as was Jones, how many more managers will it take for you to look elsewhere?

And yet, every time you tell someone that you don't believe it's anything other than a placebo and you only did it for everyone else's benefit people actively make their excuses and move away don't they?

Where does watching the video of the planes hitting them and then them being reduced to rubble stand on the list of "research" out of interest?

Nobody feels safer because you're vaccinated. Ironically, everyone you tell that feels a little less comfortable in your company.

Don't need another experiment but lets get another manager in. Perfectly normal post.

I thought he was decent yesterday. Played his role well, pressed well, linked up with KWP well. Nobody had more succesful tackles on the pitch yesterday than him which I thought was interesting.

I remember when you kept bringing up your own opinions when you thought he was staying.

You’re all getting upset over Che Adams. And not just the Che Adams that underwhelmed for us but the Che Adams who doesn’t want to be here. Just think about that for a moment and snap yourself out of it.

Yep. They’ve dragged us down to a level where people think they are key. Genius.

First game he played I think he played well. It was under Jones and at home. Can’t remember the opponent though. I gave him a buffer of one.