Fabrice29

If he stays, he ain't switched on.

Nope. Actually can't wait for him to pull out of the running by the end of the week so all the people who don't want him can be even more angry that we didn't get it done.

Saint Rob is an even bigger arse than that Andrew guy. Self proclaimed voice of the people. Proper nut job.

I’d understand if we have actually been playing possession football but as has been pointed out a few times now, we simply haven’t. The only time we have more possession than the opposition is normally at home and it’s normally because teams rightly set up deep against us and concede the ball to us…because they know we’re clueless and they’ll pick us off.

Duk at Aberdeen might be one to keep an eye on. Clinical (the actual definition of clinical) too.

Probably a good thing that we’re appointing someone who seemingly will prioritise us being much better at this then isn’t it? I’ll say it again, being angry at the idea of us passing the ball to each other is genuinely mental.

The coaches voice video Martin calls Piroe a clever player a couple of times and highlights he was playing in attacking midfield rather than as a striker. I've also seen it referenced somewhere that he was forced to play Piroe up front because he lost Obafemi and Swansea didn't recruit anyone. Think Saint86 is right that Piroe's finishing stats are a little questionable and the lack of quality up front for Swansea would explain why their shots and possession last season were very similar to Burnley but goals 20 less. That said, goal scoring attacking midfielders is something we've lacked for a while.

Walking out on 70 minutes is going to send absolutely no message to anyone. The moment the bar shuts at half time is the moment the club have taken all the money they can from you so unless you're either not going or leaving before half time, they couldn't give a shit.

You know this is something you think rather than the club, right? Nobody appointing Martin is thinking they have resigned themselves to an average joe. They think they've appointed someone good. Similar I'm sure to when Poch was sacked for being bottom of La Liga and we saw something good in him. Obviously people are welcome to their opinion on whether they are correct or not but this concern you're raising is one you have, not the club. Maybe try changing your mentality, it might be more fun. Also btw, stating in one sentence we've settled for an average joe and in another praising clubs appointing "half decent ex PL managers" is quite special.

Please set up a rival youtube channel to the coaches voice with this sort of content. I'd genuinely watch it.

Sad to see Brighton resort to boring possession football today. Hope that's not what Martin will bring to us.

Interesting about Maresca. Think that's further proof that Wilcox is heavily involved with this decision and should relax a few of the "SR chose it so it must be awful" narratives. Of course it's foolish to think SR and Wilcox aren't aligned but clear desire to be better in possession is a fundamental driver for this managerial choice.

Just a few of the examples. Little reasonable debate to be had here and this doesn’t include the NUMEROUS posts that just say ‘possession in our own half with no purpose zzzz’ which as I’ve stated is just fundamentally incorrect. There is some rationale debate on here but a lot of it is underpinned by this belief that his Swansea team doesn’t attack 😂

Don’t try mate. I showed them the stats on this earlier and people just ignore it and shout ‘zzzzz, won’t get out our own half, something wrong if you’re scoring a goal after 56 passes’

For a forum that is so desperate to be annoyed this place continues to amaze how spectacularly wrong it can still be. There’s legit concerns to be had by the defensive record of this guys teams yet all the standard dinosaurs on this forum are frothing at the mouth because he might coach us to put a few passes together.

Just love the idea that the fourth highest scorers in the league had no purpose, were boring and disappointed the fans and was turgid and rarely got out their own half.

And here is the crux of the summer really. Whatever manager we have it’s going to come down to recruiting a good squad. I personally am chuffed we’ve got a manager who will make us more pleasing on the eye at the very least but we’ll have to give him the players to succeed.

Yep but you don’t just copy and paste his results at Swansea to us if we get him as manager. You hope that he brings the good stuff and in a different environment he has the solutions to smooth out the bad stuff right? That’s the whole point of appointing a manager. We want you to bring certain qualities and hopefully it improves what we have here already. That’s the risk with any manager. Fundamentally our players haven’t been good enough this season and we’ll need squad building whoever is manager so that the player quality is improved. Any manager is at the hands of the quality of his squad and it’s something that all 3 managers we’ve had this season can point to as an excuse. However having a manager who has clearly shown he can improve something we’re really not good at right now, seems like a positive. Hopefully he can help us and we can help him by giving him a good squad.

Point I’m making is we don’t do possession very well and a move to being better at it seems sensible.

I didn’t forget to mention that, I didn’t feel it was relevant to the point the guy made about possession. You’re right though, there’s clear question marks about Swansea too, but if people are going to be angry about the appointment at least make it about the goals conceded rather than ‘pointless possession’ 😂

6th lowest possession stats in the league but somehow people still chat this shite. We’re absolutely clueless in possession and that includes keeping it. Appointing a manager who seems to be able to coach it and has demonstrated his ability to transfer it into the 4th highest scorers in the league seems like a move in the right direction and certainly not the same shite we’ve watched all season.

That article is a year old fwiw. This season they're statistically not too different from Burnley. Possession is basically the same (ever so slightly less) and shots per game is also ever so slightly less. They scored 20 goals less than Burnley, suggesting that if you give this guy better quality in the final third than he currently has it might yield similar results to Burnley. Therein lies the problem of course, whether we've got/will have the attack to deliver but the fundamentals of Martins Swansea are not dissimilar to a team that swept away the Championship this year.

This is the complete opposite to what we’ve been doing for quite a few years now. Ralph was a heavily out of possession based manager. The playbook is based around that fundamentally and the in possession stuff comes after. Jones was lambasted for long ball football. Selles has gone back to Ralph’s ways. We’ve looked cluessess in possession since the whole ‘Vestegaard diagonal to KWP or give it to Ings’ season. Having a manager who wants to focus on possession and goals scored is exactly what this squad needs. Carrick, Martin, Mowbray, whoever it maybe needs to be steadfast in creating attractive football and coaching our players to be better at it.

Doubt Adams will play bearing in mind his fitness issues. No point risking that now. Based on Brighton playing high up I suspect Alacarez and Sulemana as a front two will be back in an attempt to break quickly when we get it.

It’s funny how Gibsons reputation has always remained positive. They’ve gone from a European final to being unable to get out of the Championship which is quite the drop and one that if SR oversaw for example would not result in them being used as a good owner example.