The9

FWIW I like the training kit quite a lot, it's nothing against the monochrome badge (there's a black one and a red one on various training kit), or against plain coloured kits (I like the away kit), I'm just anti-plain coloured kit as a Saints home shirt. Though that red/gold combination is bloody ugly in it's own right as well...

Adidas would produce something to meet the specification provided by the club, not the other way around.

Quite. It was unshockingly missing any kind of link or credibility.

The9 will be pointing out that that photo was taken circa 2006, and that most international teams are being forced into all predominantly dark or all predominantly light kits thanks to a daft FIFA tournament finals rule, so they only play in white shorts in friendlies, qualification games and with their away kit nowadays.

Yeah sure, this definitely happened. What planet are you on ? The Echo poll says "72% Do Not Like" the kit. The poll on here says 60% don't like it and won't buy it, and another 8% won't buy it anyway, plus another 15% aren't bothered and therefore also won't buy it. So that's 83% who won't be buying it. Another 6.5% don't like it and won't buy it, leaving the 1/10 who actually like it and will buy it. So on what planet do you have to be to be thinking that there's a magical 68% swing in opinion ? The only way you'd get a 78% approval rating for the shirt is by polling children under the age of 10 standing in the club shop with their parents holding the thing at the till - and you'd better not ask the parents. I think it's a nice enough design for a football team, but it's a terrible Saints shirt, and the striped versions Hull and West Brom (A) have are miles better than the plain design just for the addition of a couple of stripes on the front.

Fulham have some nice black/red shorts and white/red socks, I might pick some of those up.

That's pretty crappy around the sleeves but the rest of it lays a steaming great dump over our ugly all red effort. The Hull away and West Brom home templates (which are almost certainly what Stoke will have now) are perfectly good - and the exact same templates as Saints DO have - except with stripes on it. So basically if your argument is "adidas can't make a good striped kit" I don't agree, if your argument is "if we had a striped kit it would look worse than our current kit", |I don't agree, and if your argument is "plain colours always look better than stripes", it's not even the case here despite the Sunderland kit looking a bit cack around the edges.

I'm hopeful one of those Chinese websites will start making those terrible rip-off versions and selling it for £8. I still won't buy it, but for the bizarrely-impressed, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

That's taken care of the white-hankie waving protests then. Cunning.

I can confirm he's got one of them and a fit bird.

I'd sign Messi and make the rest of the team pass to him. I am bewildered by how Charlie Adam and Robbie Keane ended up on the sexy signing list. Even the overworked Saints PR machine would have a job selling on those two in 2013 - though 4-5 years ago they'd have been decent enough Prem signings and 10 years ago Keane would have had a bit of wow factor, even if Beattie was outscoring him. Having seen Tim's motivational skills first hand on a football pitch, he'd have a go at selling them as the best players ever though !

How is it not ? It's 3 white stripes (one broad, two narrow) and two red ones.

No idea why people DON'T think that's stripes. It's barely any different to this (if reversed), and I don't remember any "it's not stripes" moaning about this one :

I've got 15 of those.

When I drove past on Friday night and I saw this lot going up, I though... it's nice to know that we're "happening", I could definitely do with my club being rebranded with a phrase that's 20 years out of date. Are we also "hip"? This stuff is going to look pretty frigging stupid if we don't at least finish in the top half, and God is gold on red an ugly combination full stop.

Quite nice, and also linked in the Pointless Kit thread last December.

There are only two miAdidas templates with a variety of features, they're not the same as the teamwear catalogue styles. There's only one pro team that I know of wearing either of the miAdidas styles, some random lower tier German side. You can barely make a decent red and white striped kit out of the options on that website.

Every shirt we wore in the 1980s other than the plain red Anniversary kit ("Patrick Red") was striped in some fashion, and in a way that is more than just the token pinstripe effort of last season and none of them other than the "Patrick Red" were completely stripeless like this season's plain red. That is not "hardly a stripe in sight". Both the Denmark style Hummel shirt and the Rank Xerox were striped, and all the other shirts were conventionally striped. Also, all of them came with black shorts and (usually) white socks.

Equally strange is the suggestion that anyone would even have a problem with us doing that - every time MLG posts "thatwasourtraditionfor50yearswhydon'tyouwantthat" (which is often), I haven't seen a single person say "oh, I wouldn't like that" in response. Navy shorts looks decent, there's an historical precedent, and if it got me the stripes back I'd be more than happy. It would also shut up some of the "we look like Sunderland" brigade, though I'm not sure the "we look like Stoke" lot would be affected as they haven't yet noticed that Stoke play in all white with red stripes and we've never done that anyway. Chivas know how to do a red/white/navy thing, though they have (also) gone to red shorts this season...

I'm already doing that all season long, starting with my oldest shirt and working forwards. Was going to do it last year, but someone won one and I bought it off them. I doubt that'll happen this time. The short launch day queues for the shirt compared to last year are a promising sign that fans are not at all keen on this particular style of shirt even though it's our first ever adidas one which you'd think would be a selling point.

Well, the b1tch has got hers. Sammy's a girl, right ? Super was the boy ? Didn't "she" used to have a bow or something ? These are the important questions.

I'm still amazed that after getting their name still on the shirt, aap3 signed off that awful, barely legible, gold advert. You can't even see it from some angles. On the bright side, the colour match for the gold is much better than the yellowy-looking aap3 they had on the leak photos and photoshops.

The one on the mannequin in the video looks absolutely awful. My adidas Team GB shirt is an XL and it's a tent.

Do you honestly think there isn't a single person alive that doesn't know that ? Daren Wheeler just posted on FB that the queue is "30 people, max" as of 2 minutes ago. Sounds like the fans are voting with their feet/wallets/hangovers.

Meh, outliers. They are the 10%.