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Barcelona weren't wearing stripes as recently as 2009, and have completely changed the colour of their shorts between three different main colours repeatedly over the past 15 years - this season they've got burgundy shorts for the first time I can remember. Like Barca's adherence to two main colours, Saints have always worn some combination red and white, in which case, what's the difference if we decide to wear red and white halves, a sash, stripes, or quarters, all of which are in the club's history already ?

Uses the current England collar but I've taken the liberty of removing the crappy little multicoloured crosses from the inner lining... which is why there's a tiny little gap at the top of the collar...

It wasn't so much "left" as "ceased working at home". Alright then, pretty sure I've got it here somewhere.

The wonders of flexi saw me log off at 3pm.

I hate the away kit too, only just bought one for fear of us selling them all when they went 25% off. Maybe surprisingly we don't have a white collar much any more. The UEFA Cup kit collar (round neck) was mostly white, before that the thin-striped Sanderson Pony kit had the striped red/white collar, and before THAT it was the "Denmark" kit (V-neck in white with black) and the classic broad striped Patrick collared kit which was mostly white with lots of red/black trim. Historically it's already been red, white or both, but nothing like as often since we introduced black to the kit with Patrick in 1980.

Flames, Lung, it was FLAMES.

Cheers, it's not difficult when you've got a load of templates created by someone else and all you have to do is a bit of colour switching and cut and paste with logos.

That one looks like a Stoke kit to me. Specifically the one they had circa 1994 with "Carling" on the front of it. Or Sunderland's Play-Off Season home kit from 1998.

Just for the record, that two colour sash style in red and black (or navy) was Man City's away kit in 1972/3 and 2002/3. Then in 2009, the exact same "two-tone" sash over the same shoulder was their away kit - the season before we got our single colour sash. Having worn it plenty of times for a year before we had it, Man City moved it to be their 3rd kit this season and changed the shorts and socks. So if they "copied us" they did it via use of a time machine.

Okay, here goes. 1) Like the "original" as above : White centre stripe, Black collar, but without the black edging on badge. 2) Red centre stripe, black collar. (This one is a bit "Sanderson broad stripes") 3) White centre stripe, White collar. NB These are just designs based on last season's Rangers away shirt, which happened to be red and white stripes. Assume nothing.

Hm, no contrast black stripes and no hideous cheap jacquard weave, but I see what you mean. I'm not giving you a horrible away version ! I've done a white collar (looks crap) and I'm going to flip the stripes to a red central one. Already toned down the black around the badge, which is a bit dark. I'll stick them up here in a few mins.

Don' wanna.

Well, I figured if I stick to the 6 or so that might feasibly be used (new since 2009, not bog standard teamwear kits) it should be a lot easier to do something... as you can see above.

Does it look better now ?

Yeah, downloaded loads, might bother to mess about with it, might not... ta though.

It would look better with the plain stripes and a black collar, wouldn't look like Sunderland, and it's exactly the same material, shape and stitching for the body/sleeves as the current home shirt which is the most popular ever. Something plain will be hugely popular, as this season's sales prove. Back when he was actually designing Saints kits for real, I seem to recall Gecko telling me that yellow shirts don't sell very well, probably because we've had so many of them. But they're both only for one season anyway.

Why would kids buy medium shirts when they're basically the same size as an XLB which is about £10 cheaper ? We do up to an XXXL, for the record, and we've always got loads of those left at the end of the season.

Preferably a draw, but a Posh win if someone has to just because they'd only get to where Huddersfield are by doing that. Though if Huddersfield finish second they'll deserve it with their run-in... A Posh/Hudd draw leaves us at WORST (even if we lose ) 3 points behind Hudd with 2 games in hand and ahead of Peterborough on GD with 2 games in hand, so it's by far the best result for us at this time. By the end of the season it could turn out to have been the worst result, but not at the moment.

Leyton Orient since late Jan : FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 22Jan 2011 Leyton Orient 4 - 0 Sheff Wed FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 25Jan 2011 Leyton Orient 2 - 2 MK Dons ENGLISH FA CUP Sa 29Jan 2011 Swansea 1 - 2 Leyton Orient FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 01Feb 2011 Leyton Orient 0 - 0 Brighton FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 05Feb 2011 Bournemouth 1 - 1 Leyton Orient FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 08Feb 2011 Leyton Orient 3 - 0 Swindon FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 12Feb 2011 Leyton Orient 4 - 1 Bristol R FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 15Feb 2011 MK Dons 2 - 3 Leyton Orient ENGLISH FA CUP Su 20Feb 2011 Leyton Orient 1 - 1 Arsenal FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 26Feb 2011 Huddersfield 2 - 2 Leyton Orient ENGLISH FA CUP We 02Mar 2011 Arsenal 5 - 0 Leyton Orient FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 05Mar 2011 Leyton Orient 2 - 0 Notts Co FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 08Mar 2011 Walsall 0 - 2 Leyton Orient FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 12Mar 2011 Leyton Orient 1 - 0 Oldham FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 15Mar 2011 Hartlepool 0 - 1 Leyton Orient FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 19Mar 2011 Brentford 2 - 1 Leyton Orient FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 22Mar 2011 Leyton Orient 1 - 1 Dag & Red FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 26Mar 2011 Leyton Orient 1 - 5 Yeovil FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 02Apr 2011 Charlton 3 - 1 Leyton Orient FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 05Apr 2011 Leyton Orient 2 - 0 Plymouth They are no mugs but their recent results aren't a patch on what they were achieving in January and February, and they haven't played a top 6 side since then, so that allied to defeats at Brentford and home to Yeovil means they're probably not playing at the top of their game any more. Even when they were, one MK Dons win and a bunch of draws versus the top sides isn't all that impressive. Meanwhile, Rochdale drew with Brighton but have lost to Huddersfield and MK Dons, and their recent run doesn't really contain any exceptional results either : FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 22Jan 2011 Yeovil 0 - 1 Rochdale FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 01Feb 2011 Tranmere 1 - 1 Rochdale FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 05Feb 2011 Swindon 1 - 1 Rochdale FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 08Feb 2011 Rochdale 3 - 1 Bristol R FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 12Feb 2011 Rochdale 2 - 1 Sheff Wed FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 26Feb 2011 Walsall 0 - 0 Rochdale FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 05Mar 2011 Rochdale 1 - 4 MK Dons FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 08Mar 2011 Huddersfield 2 - 1 Rochdale FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 12Mar 2011 Rochdale 0 - 1 Exeter FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 15Mar 2011 Rochdale 1 - 0 Notts Co FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 19Mar 2011 Plymouth 0 - 1 Rochdale FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Fr 25Mar 2011 Hartlepool 0 - 2 Rochdale FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 29Mar 2011 Rochdale 2 - 0 Charlton FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Sa 02Apr 2011 Rochdale 2 - 2 Brighton FOOTBALL LEAGUE ONE Tu 05Apr 2011 Notts Co 1 - 2 Rochdale

That's "feint", oh pedantic one.

Just seen that this is off - that's a real shame. I don't think it's the cost (£30 isn't much of an increase) so much as the combination of the cost AND the fact that a lot of the people who have wanted to do this have already done it - it's worth doing once, but it seems a lot more expensive to just do the same thing again. Just out of interest, did they have the refitted home changing rooms in place in time for last season's game ? I can't remember when they built them, but it was after Forum Match 1 in 2009.

Really ? I can imagine there must about 10 based on what I've seen of him.

Another heads up on new styles by Umbro for 2011/12 : Athletic Bilbao away would look interesting in yellow and blue :

We were heavily linked to Danns at the same time as Brian Stock was on Facebook in Jan 2010, I even followed him on Twitter on the off-chance. Does a lot of DJing, otherwise very boring.

Interesting given that the 3 people I spoke to about it saw exactly what I saw and one of them saw the OS report and drew it to my attention. We were all a bit p1ssed though.