CB Fry

It only took me one listen to get it, but we all learn at different speeds, don't we.

No-one is denying it on this forum and the management of the club are talking very openly about it too. Don't let it stop your pointless swivel eyed trolling though.

Looks like it is from The Sun.

I think it is brilliant that a British born Canadian has changed his avatar to the Confederate flag.

Box of frogs.

I think everyone can see you are a swivel eyed idiot.

Because it's genuinely what he thinks. It's not a comedy troll act. It's really what he thinks. Honest it is.

2/10.

Not really. The wrist slitting about Toby and Clyne leads to forum genius solutions based on a misguided belief that if only the club did X then so and so would never leave. I'm just pointing out that the current knee jerk solution is not without risk. If you and Shurlock want the club to carry on dealing with it as they currently are then you don't have much of a point, do you? We're on the right lines.

My apologies. I will not reply to you about this again.

Always good when Delldays paints himself into a "everyone's a hypocrite" corner. One player signing a contract extension doesn't mean all will. A player gifted a fat pay rise after not kicking a ball for a season doesn't sound particularly outrageous. Crazy how situations are different for different people, ain't it?

Even though it's doesn't really say that, expect certain people to go fu cking apesh it at about 2pm on Sunday or something. 48 HOURS THEY SAID FORTY EIGHT HOURS

Sounded like a turn of phrase. But even if true, I'm not sure any clubs "make a dime" out of loaning another club's player. I think the general point of it was to have the player in the team for a season.

100% this. Victor would be stupid to sign anything with us now, what's the point when he might get a clutch of better offers. As I said earlier, it's just another version of "Why don't we do our transfer business early??" type stuff. Like the people running the club have never considered such a thing but forum geniuses have. The wisdom of the bleeding obvious.

One, I don't think we've ever said that, maybe something about ensuring clubs meet our asking prices. With Chambers for example Les/Ronald basically came out and said "he wanted to go". and Two, we weren't enforcing a contracted player to stay, but for Toby to sign for us, which we cannot enforce. Other than that, bang on.

Does Mane need a contract extension and a pay rise? In my opinion he's our most likely Champions League departee this time next year. So at least one more year plus a pay rise, right? But does that mean a) he signs it and it prevents any club considering buying him until 2017. Happy days. b) alert him and his agent of his current clubs perceived increase in value prompting them to look about and maybe start sounding out other clubs c) upset other team mates who aren't getting new contracts offered despite being at the club longer than a year d) create a three month contract negotiation resulting in him not signing it, suggesting to the club and his team mates he isn't that committed e) clever agent feeds "X Club are interested in Mane" as part of those negotiations, creating even more meltdown on this forum I just think the idea of committing to more contract interventions earlier and earlier is going to solve any more problems than it creates.

No, no, no. We enforce the fee and in the whirlwind Toby signs with us, probably in some kind of cell or secure unit. Then, several weeks later, maybe in October, Toby rings his DadAgent and lazily muses over the phone "hey Dad, do you think there are any other football clubs in the world that would ever want to sign me.....?"

The fact you think we can "enforce" a player to sign for us is probably the nub of your problem here.

We were the first club to agree a fee. Last August.

So we have a chat with him and announce to the world "we've decided not to take up our option on Toby Alderweireld". Yep. I see your point. The reaction to that chain of events would have been incredibly calm. Maybe six or seven posts on it.

Any professional footballer with an eighth of a brain would think after the season Toby had he'd be able to get a better deal somewhere else. Some of us don't live in a linear little computer game world. You can't force humans to do things they don't need or want to. Toby played it perfectly for his own career.

HE MADE STEVEN GERRARD CRY FFS.

Okay then.

Brilliant stuff from Les. All the dins on this forum could do with having a listen to the great man but why bother when you can spew out ill informed knee jerk bile?