CB Fry

Crappy pointless trophy that is completely beneath the European footballing giant we now are. Shouldn't even be trying to win that tin pot junk. I'm only interested in one piece of silverware, and that's the trophy all those clubs get for finishing fourth in the league.

This.

Do...oh, you have.

The "uproar" (your words) was because we'd been knocked out. Before the game we hadn't been knocked out. People on here, quite sensibly, decided not to go Alpine-esque and say we'd lose before we'd kicked a ball. Not difficult is it?

He does struggle with facts, our Jeff.

What facts? Ranting at fictional people on the forum who thought we would put out a strong side as idiots? Who was that then? I think pretty much everyone knew we wouldn't bother. So pray tell us some sparkling facts small fry.

Remote chance? But we can finish fifth instead? That's less remote is it?

Righto, "small fry".

Hilarious. Yep, a club that has won jack diddly sh it for thirty years is all of a sudden a collosus of European football. Yeah, you're definitely not the idiot. The League cup is not beneath recent winners like Chelsea, Spurs Liverpool and Man United but they are obviously small fry compared to us.

I know you are habitually wrong but just to make the point... The last time 6th didn't deliver a European spot was way, way, way back in the 2012-2013 season. Last season.

You think we'd get relegated if we won a cup this season? Seriously? Are you actually bi-polar? We were off to the NOU CAMP according to you half an hour ago.

So money then. Not league position. Good guess.

Who finished fourth last time the league cup was called the Rumbelow's cup? I'm sure Chris Samba's agent certainly studied the league table in great detail before recommending his client jump feet first into the Redknapp revolution at QPR.

WE SIGNED KEVIN KEEGAN ONCE YOU KNOW!!!! (Thought I'd save LGTC the effort)

Also slightly concerned by this prevailing view that one fourth place finish once is going to lock in a kind of unstoppable sustainable success forever, unlike winning a dirty cup which is a meaningless flash in the pan. Worth remembering finishing fourth does not actually qualify you for the Champion's League (Everton) and it also doesn't mean a financial platform to build to more success, as one or two fourth place finish/CL run doesn't guarantee subsequent fourth places consistently (Newcastle, Spurs, Liverpool) and it doesn't lock in financial bounty forever (Leeds, Newcastle). Even if we do finish fourth place, it could turn out to be just as much as a temporary flash in the pan just without the silverwear, day out, DVD or lasting memory. It could mean absolutlely nothing by the end of next August. Lastly, I like LGSC's dismissive disregard for previous League Cup winners...I mean who cares? I can only assume he has a photographic memory for the squad names and numbers of the Everton, Newcastle and Spurs line ups that finsished fourth in recent years. Legends one and all. So many memories.

So you think we are going to finish fourth this season. Fine. That's clear. Enjoy the season.

I'm querying why our team on the up is suddenly incapable of beating Chelsea, Man United and Spurs. You want to go to the NOU CAMP, that's kinda the thing we'll have to do.

In other news, we are definitely going to finish fourth, as we only have to surpass at least one of the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd and Spurs over a 38 game league season.

Previous seasons we have been trying to get promoted or to stay up.

The League cup is utterly beneath the European megapower we now are, so who gives a sh it? Not me.

Brilliant! Sam Gallagher's come on. Who is he? (Please score)

Sounds like we're going to do them anyway.

It's on five live sports extra tonight if anyone's interested.

Little masterclass in professional Delldays-ing going on right now.

Disappointing line up but, hey, we might win anyway, and progress in this competition that is utterly beneath us.