CB Fry

Because I was born in, grew up in, and all my family are from and still live in, Southampton. Just need 10,000 more like me - but who currently have no interest in Saints at all - and you're on to something. And I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of anything. Just some perspective and a grasp of reality.

Something about the nature of big clubs change over time or something. And even though we never ever attracted a huge following from Weymouth in those days we definitely will this time. Or something.

And my point, that you in your deluded way refuse to even consider, is this neighbouring clubs thing is a total utter irrelevence. You tried to rubbish Forest and Derby earlier in the thread but they manage to be at least as big as Saints despite this apparent crippling barrier of having clubs close by. Your oppo MLG truly thinks that people on the outskirts of Nottinghamshire are sitting around weighing up whether to support Forest, West Bron or Port Vale. It is irrelevent. It is utterly irrelevent. That is the point I am making. People in Weymouth are not Saints fans in waiting just because there aren't many clubs about. Its a fiction in your head my son.

Didn't Forest go from Div 2 to winning the League in three years? So not that long. Anyway. I agree with you. Amen.

Squeezing money out of corporates is a very sensible way to max out revenues on very little outlay. Far better to do that than build 10,000 new seats at significant cost on the off chance that thousands of people in Weymouth are going to become die-hards. By the way, there isn't a waiting list. If you want a ST you will be able to buy one. You deciding not to buy one is not being on a waiting list. Just before MLG gets excited.

You do realise those couple of long posts are saying what I've been saying - other clubs like SWFC and Forest and Derby are at least as big and have just as much potential as we do. And neither of them are blathering on about our unique and gigantic catchment that have had 126 years to register interest in puchasing a ticket for a match but are currently yet to do so despite us signing the European footballer of the year, finishing second once and top ten several times and getting to several cup finals. And some lovely head-up-arse pompous guff about waxing and waning. No shi t Shurlock. Pretty sure that's been my point when I dare to suggest that clubs from cities with two clubs in it (gosh - two) could have similar potential to us. Any chance whatsoever that the fortunes of SolentMegaCitySaintsFC could possibly wane, ever, at all? Presumably there might be a season when we only finish fifth but suppose we can fall back on the fact that seventy-five pence of every pound spent on football in every town south of the M4 corridor will be hoovered up by the SolentCityMegaSaints by then. Anyhoo. Just want to point that out as you seem to be deluding yourself that those very sensible posts are backing you up. Read them boyo. They aint. Its me on the side of basic common sense.

No it went [crowd noise] Yeahh Yeaaaahhh Yeaaaaaaarrrghhhh....diddly-derrrrummmm. Remember it now?

Red and blue stripes with Unicef on the front.

Anyone remember they started doing second half commentary but couldn't say what game until five past three or something. "And we can now announce we will have second half commentary from The Dell..." Presumably to maximise ticket sales. Not quite the way now.

Oh that brings back memories. The crowd noise is still used now - if there's ever a radio advert or kids TV thing that needs a football sound effect it will be that same sound. As Alpine says, always had the fear when it came on. Or you'd sit there listening to Huey Lewis willing it to come on if we needed an equaliser. Unlike Alpine I wouldn't be drinking beer. Being ten. Remember I would run down to tell my Dad the score while he was pottering in the shed. Happy days under Chris Nicholl. You can keep your live streaming.......

What? Which clubs have waiting lists and DON'T sell out a full price? And what does compulsory mean in this context? Spurs are compelled to have a waiting list purely because they have loads of people clamouring for tickets. We don't have one because we don't have those fans clamouring for a ticket. No "compulsory" anything. And Saints did not make a strategic decision to sell limited number of season tickets. We would have sold more if we could. We didn't.

Waiting lists isn't a hard concept to grasp but it's beyond you.

Have Saints ever had bigger gates than Everton and if yes, which season? If it's no, just say no. Once we've dealt with that we'll move on to how many people in Nottingham are planning to become West Brom fans.

When did we get bigger gates than Everton?

Which season did we get bigger gates than Everton?

Boll ocks. Simply ********. More people in Nottingham are more likely to support a top four Forest than a top four Saints is going to attract more people from Weymouth. Despite all this supposed competition Forest get the same gates as us. Why you think they couldn't grow to the same level as your projected exponential growth for Saints I will never know. Especially as loads of people live in Nottingham and NONE OF THEM are undecided about whether to support West Brom or Port Vale. None of them.

Which season did we get bigger gates than Everton?

.....but Forest despite all this competition gets gates broadly the same as us. Why is that again? I know you are going to answer with the miniscule variances in gates between us and Forest but it will mean fu ck all from you as you think we get bigger gates than Everton. By the way Port Vale might as well be on the frigging moon as far as sharing fans with NOTTINGHAM FOREST goes. Have you ever turned your computer off and gone outside? Seriously? There's a big world out there. Go on. Log off.

Hang on. We didn't have a 23,000 capacity that season so we had scope for more. And our attendances were basically the same. And lets not forget Sheffield have not one but two clubs so have a miniscule catchment area. Someone who remembers when BBC2 went colour said so so it must be true. On the other hand Saints have GIGANTIC CATCHMENT OF HALF A MILLION PEOPLE including the channel islands and can't beat a club in a city with two football clubs.

Half a million people. In that hotbed of football passion the New Forest and everything. Someone, not me, quietly pointed out that Nottingham population is north of 600,000. But hey. Whose counting. Saints have the most unique-est catchment area in the world. And if someone who remembers the Munich Air Crash and Powdered Milk or something says it then that's that.

Have all these people moved in since our relegation then? That's the only explanation for Saints being no better than Derby or Forest or Leicester or Sheffield Wednesday in attendance terms pretty much ever in the last 126 years.

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That will the Peak District with towns like Buxton, Ashbourne, Belper and Bakewell as well as the other towns in the Derwent Valley. Plenty of people there son. And lets be clear I never said Saints have no potrntial to grow. Just that our catchment area is not some "unique" commercial advantage we have over other which you and others are saying. And you made great play of clubs like Derby and Forest being close being a problem but it isn't much like Sheff Weds can blow our attendances out of the water in League one last weekend. And I've never said we could never get in the top four. Yet more fiction in your twisted head. Of course we can. If we do though its not suddenly going to bring thousands of new fans from Trowbridge just because you've scrawled it on a map with a biro between your teeth.

Funny I can remember lots of CAPITAL LETTER strewn rants from you about POMPEY SHOW US HOW TO INVEST IN THE TEAM AFTER THEIR CUP FINAL WHY DIDN'T WE DO THAT. You were a very big advocate of their plan at one point.

Not more densely populated than Hong Kong. Just more densely populated than the New Forest. No twisting. Just facts. You're wrong but can't help being a squinnying drama queen about it. Other clubs on earth have potential too. No twisting. Just facts. Run along.