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No one thought he was "pretty rubbish" at West Ham, he did very well, and Roeder's successful season afterwards was built on Arry's squad. And David Beckham (WTF?) and Joe Jordan were nothing to do with him at West Ham. If you want "pretty rubbish" why not look at Joe Jordan's managerial career?

Christ alive. Tisdale has led a traditional league team back into the league (well done) and then in to the third tier (well done). Neither is a particularly earth shattering achievement - Steve Cotterill did it from a much, much lower starting point than Tisdale did, and others have done it. Promoted Conference teams very often scoot through the third div, the gap isn't that great and the ex-Conf team have a knack of winning which carries through. It isn't rare. Maybe Boothroyd should have spent more time in the Blue Square rather than wasting time getting promoted to the Barclays Premier. He'd statistically be a much better manager now :rolleyes: And Steve Coppell. What a ****ing waster he is with his season after season in the top flight or high in the second tier of British football for the best part of twenty years. What's he ever done in non league recently? I've gone from not minding Tisdale as an option to being completely anti because of so many fans on here talking about him like the bloody second coming who is incapable of ever failing anywhere, ever. It's totally over the top. Promotion from L2 is not actually the greatest achievement in the world you know regardless what some tossed off stats say.

If he'd called his book "no smoke without fire" then the book would have to be about how he did do what he was accused of after all, wouldn't it? People pointing out what an idiot you are is not pedantry, by the way.

That would be my only comment and the point I was making in my original post. I've got no problem if the recruitment process takes another week or ten days because getting the right man in place is the thing and I've never bought into the "we've lost pre season, we're doomed" thing. Didn't do Roy Keane any harm. I just smile when Oldknow is quoted (as have many chief execs have at many clubs over the years) about getting the criteria sorted, as if that bit is tremendously time consuming. You're talking hours, not days to do that and it is a conversation that could have happened before taking over, especially as they had clearly had a conversation about sacking Wotte. But we'll get a man we are all generally happy with, pretty sure of that.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4490380.Saints_won_t_be_rushed_over_new_boss/ Appointment could well be post-Ajax. Oh well, we'd be lost without another week of speculation about something. I don't quite buy it taking days and days to draw up a list of criteria. That's an hour meeting with a comfort break to knock that out.

If that is his motivation he's probably in the wrong game. Not a great deal of scope to actually make money, especially if he's building a stadium as well. Lots and lots of running to stand still especially in the Prem, as I'm sure you guys know more than us. The scope to make money, funnily enough, is if you can get a L1 team on the cheap and then get them in the Prem on the cheap, and then sell it to an arab.

Correct. I find it hilarious that people predicting relegation and "ten years in the third tier" are calling themselves the realists. It's la-la land. None of these people would have predicted the same kind of thing for Leicester, Forest, Leeds (not up yet but two play off finishes), Sheff Weds, QPR and Man City. "They'll bounce back". Why can't we? It's just own-club super pessimism and it's rather silly.

We weren't in the Prem when SCW turned up, but fair point otherwise.

Indeed. Completion of due diligence just means the purchaser has gone over the books. Doesn't necessarily mean the purchaser will complete. Another two weeks is a long time in pre season and won't give them much time for the Sven/McClaren dream ticket to buy all the world class mega star galacticos not already signed by Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter, Man City and Sunderland.

Okay, you win. We're going to get relegated.

I would suggest the Rugby Union World Cup is just as hard to win as the Football World cup - when you get to Quarters, Semi and Final you are still playing the best in the world. It's just quicker to narrow it down in Rugby. The fact they play football in Andorra, Finland and Honduras doesn't really have much bearing on the world cup semi finals, just a longer process to get to a final four.

Not sure exactly what you're moaning about here, but rest assured whatever it is Rupert Lowe told them to do it. Does that feel better?

Well, I never said that when we got relegated to the CCC. But if Sheffield Weds, Forest, Man City, Leicester and QPR can do it, and Leeds can make the playoffs in their two seasons down here (one of which on minus fifteen), then I can see no reason why we can't. People thinking we are going to "do a Luton" are far more deluded than people thinking we will actually do well in this league. When we dropped into the CCC we were up against clubs of a similar size to us - from Wolves to West Brom to Sunderland to Ipswich to Derby to whoever. It was never going to be easy. When we dropped into the CCC we are up against Yeovil and Swindon, Colchester and Southend. Some people don't like to hear it but we are bigger than those clubs. But if we appoint Adams we will do a Luton.

Any mention of how he was pretending to try but not really bothering to sell the club because he had it all planned out with Lowe to sell it to him at a knock down price at the last minute? After all, that's what SaintRichmond was telling us and he's never known to be wrong.

I'd take Wise and Poyet together - no reason they couldn't get us into the play offs next season. In fact there are loads of managers out there I would take with confidence they could get us out of this league. To be honest, in football management terms, there are harder jobs out there.

You got to love them rumours from the stewards. They know it all, you know.

You're thinking of Richard Branson, who isn't quite the rags to riches story he makes out. Sugar's family genuinely didn't have a pot to **** in.

You seem to be making out that Pompey plucked him away from a Wycombe Wanderers board and fanbase desperate to keep him. There was a good couple of years between his abominal record at Wycombe - 12 wins in a season and a bit and relegation - and his appointment by HR. He nurdled around in Holland or Belgium or somewhere for a while post-Wycombe he was in such high demand. I'm getting annoyed with people saying it is his Pompey connections that are the problem. It isn't. Its the fact he is utter rubbish and proven to be incapable at this level and at any level.

You seem to be confusing fans debating before an appointment is made, and then the reaction once an appointment is made. People are being scathing about Adams now (and with good reason, ie he's proven to be incapable of running a club, NOTHING to do with his Portsmouh history BTW) but were he appointed then the general feeling would have to be "give him a chance". Noone will protest at the Millwall game. But fans are well within their rights to slate a potential manager. Why the hell not? Whoever is named will get a honeymoon/trial/probabtion period from the fans. The length of that will vary on the back of who the manager is and how well they do, but they will get some time to deliver. But its fair to say Adams will get less time than most.

Recent holders of "best up and coming manager in the country" title: Phil Brown Paul Jewell Craig Levein Paul Ince Phil Parkinson Adrian Boothroyd and so on. It's tempting to assume clubs just promoted are just going to continue their upward trajectory forever, but chances are they won't. And the same with managers. Just because Ferguson, or Tisdale, haven't had a bad season, its easy to assume they are never going to have one. They will. Phil Parkinson spectacularly led a unfashionable small town small fry club into the CCC only a couple of seasons back, precisely what Ferguson has done, but against more odds and on much less money. I doubt many Saints fans want him now. Posh have probably found the peak of their level now, and if they squeak the play offs this season they will be punching spectacularly above themselves.

Not sure you can blame this forum for not giving us the option of Nigel Pearson a couple of years ago, he wasn't on anyone's radar, or Jan Poortvilet last season. George Burley was definitely on a poll and did well back in the day. It could be someone we haven't even thought of yet, but we'd need a poll of about 100 names to cover every conceivable option.

I think people tend to think that starting a thread called "Pro Tony Adams" and then telling people what they can and can't think on said thread is quite antagonistic, especially as any fool reading this forum over the last few days could see that "people thought" they do not want Tony Adams. No one is interested in examining why he might be on the shortlist. Other than that, great thread. Hey ho.

Maybe you should realise that Roy Keane is not going to leave Ipswich for us in a million, billion years. They have a rich owner and want to be in the Premier League at the end of next season. Roy Keane is not going to "put up with" being a League One manager on minus ten when he could be challenging for the Prem all next season. You are an idiot for thinking otherwise.

Errr - this is the most euphoric this forum, or any of its predecessors, has ever been. By about a million miles. If you're still depressed by it, then maybe web forums aren't for you.

I very much doubt the non-internet-forum-using members of the fanbase are sat in the pub raving about how fantastic Tony Adams would be as our manager.