CB Fry

What BBC is this on?! It doesn't seem to be on the one I'm looking at.

There's a very silly attitude on this forum and beyond that as soon as anyone fails, that's it. Career over. Coupled with an even dopier worldview that people in the very early stages of their career who have had some limited success will never, ever fail. It's this constant desperation for new new new that sees managers promoted above their station, then a failure and then unemployable in the eyes of the same bloody fans. Pardew will forever be tainted as a failure - Bol**ks to lower league success, a fantastic job at Reading and a bloody good job at ever fickle WHU. But Paul Tisdale is the golden child because he's been promoted from League two and everything and is never going to fail like Pardew. Never ever nosiree. This above quote about Strachan shows how little you know. Coventry fans were scathing about him. Absolutely scathing.

BBC 1 are cutting away from coverage of the Open and will be covering it from 12noon with all the build up following the team coaches to the stadium and in depth build up interviews with Johan Cryuff and Mick Channon. Gary Lineker will be hosting and by John Motson and Richard Chorley are your commentary team.

I bet no one starts it on Saturday, and even if someone does I bet it doesn't really get off the ground. As a few people have said he hasn't got any relevence to us, or Ajax, and he isn't actually dead and its just a bit odd. I know this is one of those threads where someone suggests something quite nice and others get utterly outraged when anyone suggests it might not be the most practicable idea, but oh well. If anyone else wants to start a "nice idea, then get outraged when it is challenged" thread how about: The recent deaths in Afghanistan The crane collapsing at the docks the other day and the seriously injured bloke Michael Jackson Early Poppy Day as Lowe banned it last year etc etc now is our chance to put that right don't you know what they have done for our country etc etc etc. Bobby Robson still ill. It's exactly 1500 days since Alan Ball died so we should all wear caps again. Justice for Hillsborough So lots of causes. Please someone start a thread about one of those please, there's always plenty of moral grandstanding to go around.

That is truly frightening, especially as he is only a year older than me and unlike me has been a professional sportsman since his teens. Granted not the leanest but still. When he's been on the radio I thought he was turning into a pretty decent pundit too. Good luck to him.

When did Tisdale "turn down" Swansea, and not sure he was ever interviewed by Reading, he may have got on a notional short list. What Steve Cotterill has achieved in football ****es all over what Tisdale has achieved and to call it "nothing" shows you only know anything at all about Paul Tisdale because he is an ex Saints player. Try putting things in a slightly broader context. I think you need to calm down, achieving promotion from L2 does not guarantee a life long career of football glory and doesn't mean everything you touch will turn to gold from here on in. Ever heard of the phrase "flavour of the month"? Quite. I'm not rabidly anti-Tisdale, just anti the silly level of hype he is attracting on here.

I wonder if you could name the managers of all the clubs promoted from L2 over the last five years? Or do you only look out for former Saints players, perchance?

Is it "price" they're haggling over or a discussion over who takes on the debts that have been run up? The price of the club is of course subject to as much haggling as you like, but "football debts" have to be settled in full otherwise the PFA and the League will force the club into admin. If Gaydamak can't and Sheikaway won't then that could be the nub of the problem.

Is it too late to sponsor Rudi Skacel. If any player sums up this forum, its him.

They won't need also rans like Peter Crouch once the good Doctor gets his feet under the table and buys Messi, Riquelme, Et'o and eight more galaticos at £50m each on 31st August. I mean, how else are they going to charge into the Champions League next season?

People "rate him highly" because he played a handful of games for Saints. He's one of many, many managers of equal stature in the lower leagues and conference but is getting disproportionate hype on here because he played at the Dell once in a blue moon. Mark Robins, Alan Knill, Cotterill, Mark Stimpson, Andy Scott, Paul Simpson etc etc etc are all "just as good as"or better than Tisdale but getting nowhere near the hype. I'm just slightly sick of the disproportionate hype is all and for that reason I'd prefer someone else.

I think anyone with half a brain can see the Hypo's intent on putting that silly quote up in his profile, and that the misspelling was a) obviously on the original quote from the original poster and b) uncorrected to add weight to the sillliness of the sentiment expressed and c) all in all, a highly amusing comment on the dopeyness of some people on this forum. Do people really need to be spoon fed this kind of info?

No one thought he was "pretty rubbish" at West Ham, he did very well, and Roeder's successful season afterwards was built on Arry's squad. And David Beckham (WTF?) and Joe Jordan were nothing to do with him at West Ham. If you want "pretty rubbish" why not look at Joe Jordan's managerial career?

Christ alive. Tisdale has led a traditional league team back into the league (well done) and then in to the third tier (well done). Neither is a particularly earth shattering achievement - Steve Cotterill did it from a much, much lower starting point than Tisdale did, and others have done it. Promoted Conference teams very often scoot through the third div, the gap isn't that great and the ex-Conf team have a knack of winning which carries through. It isn't rare. Maybe Boothroyd should have spent more time in the Blue Square rather than wasting time getting promoted to the Barclays Premier. He'd statistically be a much better manager now :rolleyes: And Steve Coppell. What a ****ing waster he is with his season after season in the top flight or high in the second tier of British football for the best part of twenty years. What's he ever done in non league recently? I've gone from not minding Tisdale as an option to being completely anti because of so many fans on here talking about him like the bloody second coming who is incapable of ever failing anywhere, ever. It's totally over the top. Promotion from L2 is not actually the greatest achievement in the world you know regardless what some tossed off stats say.

If he'd called his book "no smoke without fire" then the book would have to be about how he did do what he was accused of after all, wouldn't it? People pointing out what an idiot you are is not pedantry, by the way.

That would be my only comment and the point I was making in my original post. I've got no problem if the recruitment process takes another week or ten days because getting the right man in place is the thing and I've never bought into the "we've lost pre season, we're doomed" thing. Didn't do Roy Keane any harm. I just smile when Oldknow is quoted (as have many chief execs have at many clubs over the years) about getting the criteria sorted, as if that bit is tremendously time consuming. You're talking hours, not days to do that and it is a conversation that could have happened before taking over, especially as they had clearly had a conversation about sacking Wotte. But we'll get a man we are all generally happy with, pretty sure of that.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4490380.Saints_won_t_be_rushed_over_new_boss/ Appointment could well be post-Ajax. Oh well, we'd be lost without another week of speculation about something. I don't quite buy it taking days and days to draw up a list of criteria. That's an hour meeting with a comfort break to knock that out.

If that is his motivation he's probably in the wrong game. Not a great deal of scope to actually make money, especially if he's building a stadium as well. Lots and lots of running to stand still especially in the Prem, as I'm sure you guys know more than us. The scope to make money, funnily enough, is if you can get a L1 team on the cheap and then get them in the Prem on the cheap, and then sell it to an arab.

Correct. I find it hilarious that people predicting relegation and "ten years in the third tier" are calling themselves the realists. It's la-la land. None of these people would have predicted the same kind of thing for Leicester, Forest, Leeds (not up yet but two play off finishes), Sheff Weds, QPR and Man City. "They'll bounce back". Why can't we? It's just own-club super pessimism and it's rather silly.

We weren't in the Prem when SCW turned up, but fair point otherwise.

Indeed. Completion of due diligence just means the purchaser has gone over the books. Doesn't necessarily mean the purchaser will complete. Another two weeks is a long time in pre season and won't give them much time for the Sven/McClaren dream ticket to buy all the world class mega star galacticos not already signed by Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter, Man City and Sunderland.

Okay, you win. We're going to get relegated.

I would suggest the Rugby Union World Cup is just as hard to win as the Football World cup - when you get to Quarters, Semi and Final you are still playing the best in the world. It's just quicker to narrow it down in Rugby. The fact they play football in Andorra, Finland and Honduras doesn't really have much bearing on the world cup semi finals, just a longer process to get to a final four.

Not sure exactly what you're moaning about here, but rest assured whatever it is Rupert Lowe told them to do it. Does that feel better?

Well, I never said that when we got relegated to the CCC. But if Sheffield Weds, Forest, Man City, Leicester and QPR can do it, and Leeds can make the playoffs in their two seasons down here (one of which on minus fifteen), then I can see no reason why we can't. People thinking we are going to "do a Luton" are far more deluded than people thinking we will actually do well in this league. When we dropped into the CCC we were up against clubs of a similar size to us - from Wolves to West Brom to Sunderland to Ipswich to Derby to whoever. It was never going to be easy. When we dropped into the CCC we are up against Yeovil and Swindon, Colchester and Southend. Some people don't like to hear it but we are bigger than those clubs. But if we appoint Adams we will do a Luton.