JohnnyFartPants

No, defo Jerry, the blighters.

I actually do think you make some valid points but he does have a point. You do use 150 words where 5 would suffice. Gruffalos Child is a class book.

I think we need to make it attractive for young people to buy houses and get the market moving again. Once the bottom of the market starts moving the rest will follow suit. It does seem as if Gordon Brown is insisting that the bail out is on condition that they start lending again so who knows, things may well start to slowly get better once we lead up to Christmas.

Yes but my point is that many companies will go to the wall, mainly the under performing ones as it will literally be survival of the fittest. What will be left behind will be able to grow again in the next boom after this bust. It happens in circles all the time. There is nothing too different in all this that has not happened before, other than the fall was greater as the credit leading up to it was greater than ever before. It will all come out in the wash.

Teeth Out!!

You are getting a bit too emotional about all this. This is how I see things. You have £10, I have £10. We can both spend our £10 on stuff. You give Gordon £5, I give Gordon £5. We both have £5 to spend on stuff. Things that cost £10 will now have to cost £5 or they won't be bought. Okay, that is a very basic analogy of it all but the big picture is that if we are all screwed, then we are all still the same. Yes, jobs will go while the steadying of the ship happens and that will be very bad news for many, but at the same time I really think we are going to see a very leniet time from the powers that be throughout this horrid time due to the fact that they all know it was caused from their end.

It might just possibly be the best bit of news this country has ever had to be honest. Not the bloke getting that pension, which would be totally illegal to now stop him having, but the whole economy imploding. Five years from now I bet we are in a much stronger position, as a nation, than we ever were until this huge collapse.

Something does need to be done about bonuses and pensions that these lot are getting. It will take time but I think we are heading towards the end of the glory days for bankers, even when full recovery happens.

It is a good game either way. I really let the hun have both barrels.

Brilliant. I was sure I had seen all of their programmes but that was new to me.

In fairness, evidence suggests you might have only known after You Tube links were posted.

I suppose what I am really trying to say is I hate the way organisations (BBC is typical of this) feel too scared to tell minority groups that they are not interested. There seems to be a compulsion to "play ball" with every single minority group in case it rears up and gives you a good kicking. The exact opposite seems to be the case from majority groups. If I was a black, lesbian, amputee, single mother with a runny nose I would get the world on a stick.

I would like the first part I highlighted explained as I haven't once thought, "yeah, Stanley was right about that" and secondly, for someone that takes comments like water off a ducks back you really have got het up a few times when proven totally wrong.

It only really answers it if the anti threads stop, and judging by my last check, it isn't looking that way.

Do get a life. You come across as teachers pet more with every post. Why don't you find out what type of sandwiches Pancake likes and meet him at the cyber gates to carry his books.

I used a photo of him the other week and the person did not like it one bit.

Why is it okay to have non stop boring anti Lowe type threads yet if there is the slightest sign that perhaps things might be changing those that were willing to give things a go must remain quiet?

I am really not quite sure what you are getting at. I am merely saying, as fact, that the only way fans will get a message across to the board that they are not happy with the product if is the product is not bought. This works in business right across the board. It isn't/wasn't a dig or recommendation but purely a fact. Sorry for your confused state.

If ever you do seek help to get that enormous chip off your shoulder, I hope it goes well and you are able to rejoin the happy world of the human race. You really are one miserable, oppressive and not overly clever little man with a lot more time for himself than you credit others to have.

Sorry, couldn't resist!!

Funny as hell. What a knobber.

I just hope you really, really meant that as anything else could be labelled as "cyber bullying" and not a nice spot to be in.

I assumed you were a step dad. I never knew you had tested the lead in your pencil, so to speak. I have been here. I know you have been floating around but when only making 3 posts a day until recently I never really saw much of you. Good to see you around again though.

To be more than honest, a lot more than what floats around in yours.