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This.

Did a sportive today for the first time, the Mega Meon. Nice scenic route. One of the organisers was after some help with the car parking so did that for a couple of hours then rode for free. I went for the 118.5k standard option which is the furthest I've gone on a ride, and 1400m of climb which is double what I've done before. It's nothing for some of you lot but I feel like I'm improving at a decent rate now. Enjoyed it.

I think 1 or 2 may have tried that already. Outcome unknown.

Haha thanks! To be fair Ibiza - Amsterdam landing at 1:30pm on the 6th and leaving 24 hours later was only £130, cheaper than a lot of flights from home. It'll be ace either way, but I really want to get to the game! I thought I'd be ok with 6 aways but clearly it's not going to cut it.

Booked flights back from Ibiza for 24 hours in the middle of my holiday, so I need to beg for pity as well! I only need 1 ticket. Happy to reward generosity! Thanks in advance

This. YouTube 'Steve McClaren Dutch interview' for help with the accent if you're unsure.

Yep, staying in Amsterdam, some getting there at 8am and others at lunchtime. Thing it'll be beers around Amsterdam in the early afternoon then down to Arnhem for a few before KO, then train back afterwards.

Flights booked, Ibiza - Amsterdam only €190. In and out in 24 hours. Can't f*cking wait!

I'm in Ibiza from 3-13 August. Tryinh to talk the lads into doing it, £137 flights arriving 1pm on the Thursday and leaving 24 hours later. Wouldn't even need a hotel if we have a big night out in Amsterdam

I've been to Novi Sad, it's Serbia's '2nd city' and a lovely place. Went there in 2009 for a music festival. I don't know what flights are like these days but they weren't cheap back then. We had to fly with Lufthansa via Germany to get them cheap(ish), about £180. Would be a cracking place for an away trip. Cheap beer being a big plus!

So you ARE a racist. Things make more sense now. You'd think that someone of your age could be more mature and actually 'debate' without just going on the defensive every time. And you'd also think someone would have more sense than to make racist comments on a public message board.

F*ck off Toby F*ck off A.Madrid And mainly, f*ck off Tottenham. Can't they ever come up with anything on their own? Masters of copying what they see elsewhere, and not quite making it work. Hope his hamstring goes on the first day of the season.

That's right. Well done Sarnia. God bless fat people.

In summary then, nobody has got a f*cking clue what's going on. I always think something must have happened when I come on and there are another 5 pages, but it mainly Alpine getting his granny pants in a twist and everyone laughing at him. What a waste of time.

Looks sore, VFTT. Special K - London to Barca sounds amazing! Go via Andorra for an extra challenge, couple of hills that way I believe...

3 points, and I'm ITK on these: - it's complicated - Nobody who is actually ITK is going to be revealing anything much at the moment, because of point #1 - Tottenham Hotspur can f*ck off

You old farts with your 1984 memories! Wish I could've seen that but wasn't born til '87

Yeah that was good. We had £25 on a Lambert hattrick at 25/1 so we're going doubly mental. Apart from 1 of the lads who was so ****ed that he thought it was Guly who had scored the first until we put him straight

Been done loads, but a fun thread. Rasiak - Derby away in the playoffs.

MLG isn't a person, it's a computer program. I believe it was written by one of stevegrant's ex team-mates who was a computer wizz, so that the forum could be more factually accurate. It appears to be becoming outdated and tedious however.

If he'd gone to United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea or abroad I'd have wished him well I think. As it is, I hope he's a flop and Liverpool have another shocking defence this season.

Jesus Sarnia, give it a rest. You have no credibility, and I think most people believe you're either a troll or have learning difficulties. When someone quotes the horrendous handgun death toll numbers and you reply with 'God Bless America', nobody is going to take you anywhere near seriously. Go careful out there, don't get shot.

I'm much better at the longer stuff with running, 10 mile up to marathon distance. Will be interesting to see if it's the same with cycling.

Yeah I'll definitely be doing that, there are club rides most nights and plenty of speedwork options. I need to get a bike fit done first I think, knee is a bit sore from Saturday and I'm not sure I've got it set up right. I'm a runner so know all about LT training, and the zones I need to be in for Vo2 max improvement etc, just trying to get some good base mileage under my belt before I go too nuts. I'm still trying to get rid of some tendinitis in my knee as well. Cycling doesn't seem to aggravate it much but I'm wary of it anyway.

The Tri ride that goes through is a drop ride, and so out of my league. I've got less than 350 miles under my belt and I've never even cycled the distance for the full route. I tried to hang on the back last weekend but got dropped within a couple of mins, the full route is about 80 minutes for the quickest guys. For me doing the shorter route is still a big ask as I'd never done over 50k until last week and these are 100k+ rides. I definitely need more miles and to be considerably faster to even think about trying to hang on for the full lap. There are plenty of quick guys who get dropped on the full circuit, guys who race regularly. A newbie hasn't got a chance