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Having an affair and having it off with someone junior to him at work. Both wrong but both a million miles from raping kids.

Whereas in your world facts don't seem to matter.

Just stating facts. I have said all along I think he is a scumbag and in the wrong. Just don't think comparing him to Saville and all the other shit is fair.

There is no evidence out in the open that contradicts Shofield's version of what happened, most of what you said just explains how they met. The Other man is free to make a complaint and give his side if he was groomed as a child.

I didn't say you said it, it's been the general theme of this thread. Yet I get accused of defending the scumbag because I'm actually looking at the evidence and not part of the rabid lynch mob.

People who prefer to actually see evidence before labelling him a peado or comparing him to someone who rapes kids you mean?

Or just most people who think like you?

It's Duckhunter that said they were the same, not me. Both were consensual sex between two adults. One other difference was in the Ched Evans case one claimed they were raped, in the Scofield case no-one has claimed they were groomed.

I never said you did, just asked a question. I only asked because many on here seem to think it's OK to label Scofield a nonce or compare him to Saville when as you said - It’s exactly the same as Ched, consenting adults having sex.

Do you think it's fair to label Ched a nonce as well then?

This video is a few months old but gives a good idea of the significance of the dam:

Coming from the likes of you I take that as a compliment. I genuinely do.

To be fair, we are not the ones comparing him to Saville and labelling him a peado for having what looks like a consensual relationship with a 20 year old.

What, details like there was nothing sexual about their relationship until they kissed when the guy was 20 years old. Yeah, that’s just like Jimmy Saville.

What assumptions have I made?

I said ‘might have’ as in we don’t know the details. You really do have trouble reading don’t you?

You are just making stuff up now, I have never said it was the other guys fault. Only Scofield and the guy know what went on.

Exactly. Plus part of the managers job is to get the best squad possible.

I have said he is wrong, is creepy and a rat - do you have problems reading or something? He’s obviously a scum bag but calling him a nonce and comparing him to Saville etc, from what we know at the moment is bollocks. Saville raped kids, it looks like Scofield had a consensual relationship with a 20 year old man. Unless more info comes to light I don’t think it’s right giving him that label.

I don’t have a clue wether he has done anything illegal or not, neither do you. That’s been my point all along, only he and the other man know what went on. Just because I’m not jumping up and down screaming peado doesn’t mean I am defending what he did, I’m just going by what we know as facts. If the other guy was groomed and abused then we will find out more facts if it goes to court of if he comes out and gives an alternative account of what went on. Which he may well do.

Only Schofield and the other man know what went on, the events we know about could ease a predatory peado grooming a child, or it could just explain how the two guys met. I’ve never defended Schofield, just don’t think we know enough at the moment to say he is a nonce.

Exactly. A rich famous older man shagging a 20 year old woman will barely make the news. He may well have groomed him but until there is any proof it's not fair at all to label him a nonce. If the other guy comes out and makes a complaint or any compelling evidence surfaces then fair enough.

I haven’t struggled to criticise him, I’ve already said he’s obviously creepy and a rat. Other than that, great point as usual.