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A sort of phewwwwww. I know Norwich pull away, but it's more important to keep Donny below us.

Armstrong and Cope have been scathing about the performance and also about the tactics and team selection by Jan. They reckon they'll be asking Jan why he picked square pegs for round holes!!!! Cope even posing the question as to whether a change in manager is needed!!!! However, I'm sure some will blame the fans for not turning up!!!!!!!!

& Smith, Cork, Holmes and Wotton

But we're also not very good at the back. 10 goals in 4 games!!!!!!!!!

Armstrong just made the comment of: "Maybe they trained too hard on Thursday" Maybe a cryptic reference about the stories Lowe has demanded extra trning sessions ala SCW!!!!!!!!!!

Bottom three, Donny wil still be a point below us.

But coudl keep Norwich in the mire as well (although I would prefer all three below us losing all the time!!!!!!!!!!)

James skinned again for that goal. Seems everyone knows about our weakness there about from Jan and Rupe's!!!!!!

Where can I find this video???? Need a larf about something

But it is the supporters fault you know :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I hope it does!!!!!!!!!! Onl because they're playing Barnsley

TBH, we need to keep it tight now as goal difference could be worth a point come May. I just can't see how this can get any better!!!!!!!!!! Have to pray Donny, Barnsley and Forest remain shyte:mad:

Bradley's bigging up in the Echo and on the OS didn't really pan out:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Apparently we have changed formation and Lallana has moved back to his normal role. Both Solent and Hampshire were pretty critical of the first half performance and the way we lined up. Lallana to score in his free role. 1-1 for me.

It is slightly perplexing that despite getting rid of three strikers, these two don't even get a look in!!!!!! And when someone asks for alternatives, then one would be not to have signed these two (look after the pennes etc etc etc) Not overly sure I can agree with that, as we had that too many times earlier on in the season, when quite frankly just because they have come through the system doesn't mean they can perform at this level.

"Swansea have only scored 10 in 7 home games, so they're not real prolific" says ole Will. What do you make of our 5 goals in 6 Will??? Armstrong reckons we're disjointed and a disappointing display.

Oh the old "don't want to do a Leeds" chestnut, which Lowe himself would trot out now and then. Leeds were a one off absolute ficuiking nightmare who took out long term loans and then spent the money on wages and players. No one, not one single person ever suggested we shoud go down the Leeds route. It was a crap scare mongering answer which failed to answer any real questions. Indeed it doesn't, but having three managers in one season (with one of them being the disastrous Wigley) is a guarantee that you will be in the shyte. They employed three managers as well, and lo and behold, they ended up n the shyte as well. And I don't thnk anyone would have been so upset had we given it our best shot and been relegated, just as three get relegated each year. Instead our managerial merry go round was tantamount to Footballing Hari Kari. No, because as you rightly point out, three have to go down every season.Therefore it just means for many, on these occasions 17 teams were simply better than them. However, in our case we made some massive mistakes which ensured we were one of the worse teams. We went down without a whimper. I'm sure others have made similar sized mistakes as us, and I would like to think that they would also have been hled to account and where appropriate relieved of their duties. Lowe was the only person to oversee three managers (inc Wigley) and that's the statistic that is the most succinct when discussing our fall from grace.

I would happily settle for someone who can stick away 20 goals from 40 chances!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you did a similar analysis on McGoldrick, it would be something like 1 from 40!!!!!!!!!!!!

IMHO that story was more to do with the *****fest going on at the time with Hone and Crouch than anything else. I think both sides were pontificating and posturing and their own little fight meant the Club was a sideshow for a short perid. I could never get my head around why someone would write out a cheque and hand it over (that's about the only factual part you can rely on in this story), but then the recipient would need to go back to ask if they could cash it (they've given you the cheque, isn't that enough???) and then a few months down the line when the cheque still hasn't been cashed the original person says hold on (is that after he has been foced out and he says ficuk you???). Like I said I think it was a side show between two men who hated each other.

Firstly the price wanted by those with any substantial chunk of shares is way OTT. Secondly, it's actually the norm that Non Executive Directors/Chairman don't have a large shareholding in their company to ensure they are "independent" and not influenced by a financial interest..

Something I alluded to when I said: "We could have looked to have formed a board and leadership that the supporters would have respected, trusted and as a result would have rallied around, but instead the main players fought amongst themselves for control of the hot seat." Egos (and personal greed???) ensured that personal ambitions and desires were put before the good of the Club, as each of the main shareholding blocks fought to get their man in the hot seat. Why were many of them so shortsighted to think that the only alternatives were from the existing (and failed) shareholders?????

But why are fans staying away???? Quite simply because we haven't been winning games (particularly at home). And one of the main reasons we haven't been winning games is because we have only scored 5 goals in 6 home games. And IMHO one of the reasons we haven't scored many is because our top scorer last season hasn't really featured. And so we don't win many home games and fewer fans turn up. It's a downward vicious circle with the cause and effects being obvious to almost everyone (except a few who really can make a difference!!!!!!). Any fool can cut costs, it's easy. What is more difficult is getting a side together that wins games and brings the fans back, which in turn increases revenue, which in turn means we can hold on to players. Some may say that the fans have to do their side of the bargain first and turn up, but I'm fed up of fans being blamed for our current predicament. We have always been the innocent victims of mistakes, egos and failures. IMHO it is up to the board and the management to start delivering. Now of course if we had a board and leadership that fans trusted and respected, then there could be a chance that a rallying call would galvanise the fans to turn up irrespective of results, but sadly the current leadership are a million mies away from being able to do that. So results on the pitch are even more paramount to boosting crowds, which brings us back to the folly of releasing probably the ony player left on the staff who can score on a regular basis.

A while back we had a number of alternative routes we could have pursued. We could have gone for an alternative manager to Jan. We could have considered an alternative style of play. We could have brought in alternative players to the 8 or 9 we did. We could have done alot of footballing things differently during the close season. And with regards leadership we could have gone for an alternative set up in the boardroom, but no one, including Crouch, looked beyond themseves as an alternative. We could have looked to have formed a board and leadership that the supporters would have respected, trusted and as a result would have rallied around, but instead the main players fought amongst themselves for control of the hot seat. There were alternatives, and to suggest Lowe, Jan and the youngsters were the only option is naive and simplistic. However, there may well be a case to suggest we are now lumbered with what we have got on and off the pitch. We can live in hope (which is all that is left for many), but Lowe is inextricably linked with Jan and so I see no movement there and I'm not sure the shareholders have the vision or passion to seek out any alternative on or off the pitch. Lowe has certainly made his bed, the only problem is that it's not a praticularly comfortable bed, and few want to share it with him!

Was Jan naive in making the: "We're aiming for the play-offs." statement after the Derby game?

Were you saying the same halfway through Wigley's regime?????