bridge too far

You are so dumb sometimes, it astounds me. Can't you read FFS? TDD asked me who Jody McIntyre was. I told him. End of story. I didn't support or denigrate either side. Once again, I post a fact and an unbiased answer to a genuine question and get a diatribe from the likes of you.

What a shame one of the officers chose not to wear his ID badge, as required by his Chief Constable http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/12/student-protests-met-police-chief

For those who want the facts, here is the spreadsheet https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AonYZs4MzlZbdG9NQ0k5UUN1LVNYNm5DSjVKNDBuNGc&hl=en#gid=0 As Badger (and I) have pointed out, there are County Councils, District Councils (and Unitary Authorities - overlooked that one ). So when you trawl the list for, say West Oxfordshire (District Council), where I live, you also have to look at Oxfordshire County Council. I live in David Cameron's constituency. We've done OK.

Sorry Colin - my comments were aimed at TDD but I quoted the wrong comment. I don't know the figures - I'm too busy to research any further.

You really don't understand how local government works, do you. A person living in, say, Bournemouth, will get £x (whatever its settlement is) PLUS £407 per person that is the Dorset per capita spend. It's totally illogical to compare Dorset to St Helens or Plymouth - it's like comparing apples to pears. Dorset is a COUNTY council, St Helens and Plymouth are DISTRICT councils. Understand now?

It's not possible to make a sensible comparison as one is a District (City) Council and the other is a County Council. The County Council will include a number of District Councils, in the same way that Devon County Council will include Plymouth City Council. It is the % cut that is relevant. FYI here are population figures: http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/population http://www.dorsetforyou.com/344863 But note that e.g. Bournemouth will have its own District Council and therefore its own budget.

The wheelchair-bound cerebral palsy suffering student who was man-handled from his wheelchair by the police.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11986228

Isaac Stern was another great violinist. He actually used to cry whilst playing.

LOL - full interview on BBC South Today @ 6.30.

BBC South News reporting NC has said club NOT for sale

1. I have worked for myself for a number of years, many years ago. 2. When I worked in the public sector, I let contracts to construction companies and other suppliers, so they had work. 3. I am now retired.

Excellent point! Compare £142 a year for all that the BBC offers (radio, TV, web) with over £800 a year for Sky (only ever watch football / cricket). No competition for the prize for best Value for Money, is there!

Thanks for that link - it makes it a bit clearer. I also read your comment about being fair - however many companies (and my other daughter works for one) insist that Bank Holidays are included in the statutory minimum 28 days (in other words, overall she gets 28 days). So I'm assuming that the extra BH will figure in their reckoning for all their employees. In other words 9 and not 8 days will be deducted straight away, leaving 19 instead of 20 days of choice. Such people won't actually get an additional day in reality. Others will, of course. I guess everyone needs to check their Contracts of Employment. Mr TF is the same. However, as he works 4 days (or nights) on shift and 4 days off, he inevitably has to work on some BHs. He doesn't get additional pay or TOIL but the upside is that he's often not working when others are. The downside is that quite often we can't do stuff on a BH and that, for 5 weekends out of 8, he's working or turning himself round from days to nights and vice versa. But at least we can sometimes have days out together during the working week So to summarise (deep breath) - I'm not being negative . I'm simply pointing out that some people just won't get an extra day off next year, or get paid extra for working on a BH or have TOIL (including the self-employed - having been S/E myself years ago I truly appreciate your point).

I'm not disputing that. I think you'd be surprised at how many people only get the minimum. But that's not what I'm trying to understand. If that statutory minimum stays at 28 days, then presumably people who only get that minimum won't get the additional day. Or will they? They might well get that Friday off but might they then lose an additional day of choice, so to speak? I genuinely don't know what the answer is, but I'd like to.

I really don't know. But am I right in thinking that some people might not get an 'extra' day - see the link I posted. It seems to me that it is possible and legal for employers to include all bank holidays when reckoning overall entitlement. For example, Mr TF gets the statutory minimum 28 days a year but Bank Holidays are included in that reckoning. I think I'm right that currently there are 8 BHs a year? So it will be 9 this year? So that leaves 19 days of choice instead of the normal 20 days. Or have I got that wrong? It's all a bit confusing.

Don't be so negative FFS! He's British. Anyway, regardless of nationality, it should be a good match to watch.

Good point there. My daughter works Monday - Thursday. However, she actually works full-time hours over the four days. But her organisation (a housing association) works on an annualised hours basis. In other words, she's contracted to work x hours over the course of a year and gets y hours holiday a year. I guess she'll lose any entitlement to an extra BH because it's falling on a Friday or it will have to form part of her contracted y hours holiday a year. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I wonder if some employees will not actually gain an extra day at all. Sorry for posting this link again, but I think it's quite relevant: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10029788 especially: "bank and public holidays can be included in your minimum entitlement"

Playing Federer right now. On BBC2 Should be a cracking match!

dress

That's good news!

Nah - there won't be any traffic to speak of. They'll all be watching the wedding

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Because I was talking about shift workers in general and not him in particular. Jeez

It will form part of his entitlement to the minimum number of days holiday a year (28 days a year) http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10029788 "bank and public holidays can be included in your minimum entitlement "