Sir Ralph

Even if ings goes I still think we need Armstrong plus another decent striker. This would mean we have 3 reasonable attackers with tella and Redmond to fill in. Relying on Adam’s (10 goals a season) and Armstrong (has really played in prem) to fire us to 18th is a risky tactic.

The abuse the players received is clearly unacceptable but the media has lost sight of explaining the facts to ensure proportionate consideration in order to maximise their headlines. It gives the impression that vast swathes of the country and football fans are racist - they are definitely not. Also if everyone is so worried about abuse on social media where is the support for Priti Patel following the abuse she has suffered. I can’t imagine why the vocal media types aren’t coming out in support of her.

This - spot on. Having watched Williams a few times hes a good little player and I think it would be a great move to secure him for a season as we would never have the option of signing permanently.

It’s awful - he has young kids too. I hope he pulls through....

Bad business overall based on the £13m we paid for him but good in the context of (1) he aint very good (2) reduced player prices because of Covid (3) he would otherwise sit on the bench and get paid £xxxx per week.

Great bit of business - extra £5m in the kitty. Now Hoedt and Lemina

It’s symptomatic of most people who hold these views with belligerence - this is why they avoid debates because their case get torn to part pretty quickly.

At least we can agree on the fact that we can all have our view without being labelled. I believe booing is too heavy handed but believe people can voice their disagreement openly. Appreciate discussing it with you

So you don’t have a problem with disagreeing with taking the knee. Only the booing? So if someone turns their back on the kneeling is that ok?

also have acquaintances of Asian origin who attend football. They also disagree - I assume their views are valid as it is an anti-racism gesture? The group and width of intelligent people with sound reasons against this grows.:....maybe these people aren’t all closet racists. if they changed the gesture to linking arms this would mainly go away. However unfortunately the PL, Southgate and players are too simple to understand the nuances of the shameful objectives of BLM. They say they want to “bring everyone on board” but will not make this simple change - so that’s lip service “follow us or else”. Regardless I think we have all received the anti-racism message loud and clear and all they are now doing is making those who are racist even more entrenched.

Well be surprised then. Zaha has shown his opposition to it as have other players so is it really that surprising? Not had the chance to attend a game yet but would when they do. They don’t see it as anti-racism but have a dislike of what BLM stands for as an organisation and other reasons. I also don’t believe their view of kneeling is more valid than yours or mine - our views are all valid. therefore, if they aren’t racist, neither are the other people on this forum who hold similar or many others that boo (I say many because there will be some who boo out of racist intent but not a vast majority I suspect).

Antrimsaint - you keep repeating the same point. You still haven’t responded to my point from yesterday which I’ve copied below for your ease of reference. I’m assuming you will (a) ignore (b) do a funny face or (c) send abuse. All of which confirm you don’t have an adequate response. So come on debate the below and how your theory fits in this context.... So a person who is black or has dedicated their live to working with underprivileged parts of the black community who objects to kneeling is a racist? On the assumption you will say “yes” I know people who fall within this category. Please explain your logic in this context....

Exactly no response cause it’s clear he can’t logically defend his position. My post is also not a speculative scenario.

Antrimsaint - great response to my challenging of your post - “laughing face” which I take to mean you have no response to my point which has blown your feeble logic out of the water.

So a person who is black or has dedicated their live to working with underprivileged parts of the black community who objects to kneeling is a racist? On the assumption you will say “yes” I know people who fall within this category. Please explain your logic in this context....

This post thread is evidence as to why kneeling should be dropped. It’s divisive because of its BLM links. Campaigns such as kick it out were previously supported by fans. Why did people not boo previous anti racism campaigns but boo this one - there is one key difference. It’s obvious

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I go to football as I enjoy watching it, sing and support saints and forget about the weeks dramas. Singing anti racist songs and complaining to stewards about people booing is not what I go to football for. How about players/fans instead focusing on promoting charities and welfare for underprivileged kids of all backgrounds. That’s something I would support and would have tangible benefits.

Bobby robson - “What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It’s not the television contracts, get-out clauses, marketing departments or executive boxes. It’s the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city. It’s a small boy clambering up stadium steps for the very first time, gripping his father’s hand, gawping at that hallowed stretch of turf beneath him and, without being able to do a thing about it, falling in love.”

But if a player is under contract for a UEFA registered team they would need to wait for a contract to expire before moving. I imagine that uefa and fifa could put a ban on their clubs selling to super league clubs too, if they are no longer UEFA or fifa registered clubs. Obviously if a contract expires you couldn’t then stop a player from moving

You have to be registered with UEFA or fifa to move clubs. If you are you shouldn’t be able to move to a team not recognised or registered with them.

Wouldn’t be the worst thing. If the big 6 left the league would be much more competitive. They should: 1. Kick these teams out of their domestic leagues 2. prevent their players from participating in the Euros and World Cup - cue player revolt from many 3. prevent transfers from the teams outside the super league to the super league. Once their supply of good young players (Haaland, Mbappe, etc) runs out from across The World and the current crop of players in the Super League get older how good will it be then?

10 v 10 now bearing in mind we have Redmond

Salisu on second half to bag a treble

Redmond is utter tosh. He is a pointless winger just passes backwards, never takes anyone on, has no strength - get rid