AlexLaw76

This is what I think is happening. "working with the EFL" to minimise our exposure.

why on earth would we let a young manager be the face of all of these in a build up to a £200m game (if we get past Boro) if there is absolutely noting in it. Makes no fucking sense.

I think the EFL have shifted for a more immediate response

LOL we have been charged, and we are not disputing it

Determine who it was? Pretty sure all knew within a minute who it was hence why the club have been charged.

good god, we have been charged and the club are not even disputing it

I have no idea if this person was on a work placement or Spors himself.

And then set new rules. Trouble for Boro (I believe), set sanctions are not laid out. So going for debatable sporting advantage to getting kicked out of a £200m competition is madness

I believe we were aware/involved with someone going up there to gather information, given their training ground is pretty accessible. This, coupled with the fact they are a very good side and have battered us the last time we played them. I would not be surprised if this is not the first time this season.

what internal investigations, we had nothing what so ever to do with it and it was some "wet behind the ears" intern doing this complete off their own back and without request.

The club have said almost nothing and those with a microphone are saying nothing. Almost certain that if we had absolutely nothing to do with it, we would be shouting about it. As others have said, I am sure we are on a huge damage limitation exercise.

Have the club said this was an intern?

No one is saying anything, but the suggest this is the fault os some upstart, who was desperate to impress someone drove up on a weekday, of their own back without any engagement with anyone linked to the club, is rather fanciful

who says he is young and or wet behind the ears?

This is the only thing the club has said... Which is very different to "nothing to do with us, but were are happy to help" I suspect we are in damage limitation mode

is that what is going on?

I cannot believe an 'intern' did all of this alone and rather randomly.

It makes sense why some of the Boro fans are a bit mad https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AX7uGLnqb/?mibextid=wwXIfr

I get it, they are furious, plenty here would be. But £200m legal challenges, 8 figure fines, expulsion, points deduction, and everything as extreme. https://fmttmboro.com/index.php?forums/main-forum.2/ I can see a fine in excess of £1m and a suspended points thingy

Matsuki and Stewart to start as for Boro, Christ, some of their fans have gone insane online. Some are suggesting an 8 figure fine at a minimum, and if not, Gibson to sue the club for £200m I thought northerners were tough old boots

That is now being reported (the last bit)

And I bet he never dived, purposely handballed or tried to get a player sent off

I get it, we probably messed up. some of these pundits getting riled about it would thought nothing about diving all over the show in their playing days i see the story has shifted from some lad on his phone (who was asked to delete the recordings), to full on surveillance kit that Mi5 would have been proud off

Fair point. they battered us in the first half and should have been 2-3 up. That was there best chance as you know it will be a very different situation Tuesday night

imagine the mess if we are, bizarrely, kicked out of the playoffs