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I popped the Village Idiot Society's Village Idiot of the Decade on ignore for the day yesterday. Going by the responses, I've missed another day of jaw dropping whataboutery, deflection and ignorance. When I saw hostages were freed, I remembered Soggy telling us that they were much safer with Hamas. I guess they and their families are giving the IDF a real telling off. Terrible to see the casualties. Sadly Soggy's master plan for conflict resolution doesn't translate into the real world. If only it were that simple, like he is.

I doubt whoever they bring in is going to matter much, while they sort out their idealogical crises during some wilderness years. In that time they will have Reform's votes to win back, while possibly lurching to the right and then back again. If Reform don't amount to anything lasting, getting a broad church back might be quicker. Their next leader who matters probably isn't from the current lot. But will be someone who comes forward when people get sick of Labour being as bad and their internal fighting.

I agree that we shouldn't be considering Jason Steele until we know exactly where he stands on Lallana's departure. Hang on, I might have read all of today's posts too quickly...

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I can imagine the reasoning... "He's got the best delivery in the squad, giving Kane the best chance of getting on the end of them." 🙂

There is modesty there. That post had at least 30 emojis. 🙂

I'd forgotten just what a good squad that was. GK: Not going to miss shouty Pickford DF: Stones, Walker and Trippier but no room for them. Phil Neville offered a solid level in multiple positions. MF: Bellingham would have to go in. Hargreaves would be the one to go. And that's probably injury related. Owen was a classy player. Struggling to drop anyone for Rice. FW: Kane for Heskey, Vassell would be one to replace. I'd go with Bowen there myself. I'd have selected Grealish over Joe Cole, but here Saka. But yeah, fiddling with a few upgrades over a core 2004 squad.

England Euro 2004 Goalkeepers: 1. David James (Man City), 13. Paul Robinson (Tottenham), 22. Ian Walker (Leicester) Defenders: 2. Gary Neville (Man Utd), 3. Ashley Cole (Arsenal), 5. John Terry (Chelsea), 6. Sol Campbell (Arsenal), 12. Wayne Bridge (Chelsea), 14. Phil Neville (Man Utd), 15. Ledley King (Tottenham), 16. Jamie Carragher (Liverpool). Midfielders: 4. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool|), 7. David Beckham (Real Madrid), 8. Paul Scholes (Man Utd), 11. Frank Lampard (Chelsea), 17. Nicky Butt (Man Utd), 18. Owen Hargreaves (Bayern Munich), 19. Joe Cole (Chelsea), 20. Kieron Dyer (Newcastle) Strikers: 9. Wayne Rooney (Everton), 10. Michael Owen (Liverpool), 21. Emile Heskey (Birmingham), 23. Darius Vassell (Aston Villa). England 2024 GK: Jordan Pickford (Everton), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal), Dean Henderson (Crystal Palace) DF: Kieran Trippier (Newcastle United), John Stones (Manchester City), Lewis Dunk (Brighton), Joe Gomez (Liverpool), Kyle Walker (Manchester City), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace) MF: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea), Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Declan Rice (Arsenal), Adam Wharton (Crystal Palace), Kobbie Mainoo (Manchester United), Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace) FW: Jarrod Bowen (West Ham United), Anthony Gordon (Newcastle United), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Ivan Toney (Brentford), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa), Palmer (Chelsea

I was thinking of that one. In his autobiography wasn't it? Getting on the when the ball would go out of play? I got the feeling that, while Matt said it was his first and only time, that it wasn't for others.

Flynn conspired with Humza to drop the Greens. Not done tactfully, resulting in Humza losing his job. New deputy Kate Forbes also involved. Not much love lost between the Westminster SNP and the shortbread tin parliament SNP. Westminster SNP had obstacles put in the way of them returning home to stand, making because Stugeon didn't want anyone with clout getting in thecway of her control. Blackford was an appalling trougher.

Ian Blackford? His own Westminster chums couldn't stand him either. As soon as Sturgeon's control wavered they promptly stabbed in the back, any got shot of him.

Another colossally ignorant post. Your antisemitism is horrible enough. That you're clearly an imbecile, makes it worse. Instead of being limited to 3 posts a day, it's now a tirade of self delusion, infecting more of the threads. Too stupid to learn, too stupid to listen.

That could be using the old method of identifying antisemitism, though. In the last week, SOG has been looking to redefine antisemitism. The same opinions everyone else would find abhorrent, but rebranded to deflect attention. Perhaps the new definition will follow on from last year's comments that indicated that if it didn't mention the Holocaust, it wasn't really anti Jewish.

The deadline is 11pm tomorrow. (Why yes, I did just have to look it up 🙂) Southgate going to be using only those with a chance of playing. That would lead to a load of noise around those not starting, or not involved. And those players would want to know too. So, Southgate has told them before hand. Which is decent enough. Pretty rubbish to not start, then see the subs go by, and then not get picked. I guess scheduling the reason why the friendly is on the eve of selection. But odd from an injury point of view. Although they can bring folk in.

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Surprised at Grealish, for much of the same reasons as @Turkish. He gives a number of options to get past defences. But then, I've not seen much of the PL this year, and have heard more than seen good things about Eze and Palmer. Gordon has looked good whenever I've seen him. Some of the others are stand ins for Kane. Tough choice to make. Lots of talent, but a little bare in some places.

If only we were. I stopped 2 lines into the last post, seeing the number of fibs and editing he was doing in his head.

For the record, you backed Abbott to the hilt. You agreed with her heirarchy of racism. You then went on defending your heirarchy. A number of posters pointed out what your stance meant as you proceeded to discriminate against groups including jewish people. You didn't want to know. Nor did you care about Abbott's history of such comments. We continued to point the implications out, as your views went past Abbott's stance, past Corbyn's, past the extremes of Momentum, past Palestinian activists, and past Palistinian politicians, who had apologised for views you raced past. Along the way you ticked a number of common antisemitic tropes. Which, from the Israel thread, you're still doing. This week saw you trying to redefine antisemitism, as you don't like the label while holding the views. Up there with your gleeful 'maybe Jeremy was right' on deaths on a safe route, and the hostages really being a lot safer with Hamas, than with Israeli forces. Posters here did not suddenly decide anything. The impact of your opinions has been pointed out to you for years. Conflicted, you agreed with Starmer's actions against Abbott. But you could never reconcile your two stances. Even above Starmer is right, yet paranoid. Again, above, Abbott is wrong. Yet, actually... and off you go. Trying to retrofit later activity around views you just can't learn from, is something common to a lot of your posts. Sadly, it seems we'll be seeing a lot more of it, now you've paid your fiver. I can only hope, after this initial flurry, it gives you room to not cram everything together, and that perhaps that was part of the problem.

Is there going to be a public vote round?

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Don't worry. We're sure to be able to take your unbiased, well considered statement, and twist it to support our own views. 🙂

Even Sunak looked embarrassed about the National service question. But repeatedly, and directly, asked Starmer what he would do across topics and there were, as you say, no answers. Sunak even got to play that into his closing statement.