Galway saint

Seems a long time since the transfer window closed and optimism abounded. People were lambasted at that time if they dared to suggest evenHolgate was a shite signing ( that was pre sunderland). Must be some sort of record for the pace of decline in sentiment. Guess it’s principally because no one with a footballing brain can see us getting promoted playing this way and the aimless fecking passing around at the back drives you mad. it’s passing for passings sake

Feels like we still haven’t hit the bottom.I remember driving up to sunderland with a fair amount of optimism but feels like after the last three games we are miles away from being a coherent team challenging for promotion. unless we sort it quickly the season is just going to evaporate and with each season the squad quality will diminish. having said all that still feel we will be in and around the play offs come the end of the season but that’s blind faith really at the moment

big ron

you say that Martin knows how to play the system and not concede lots but at Swansea he played the system and conceded lots of goals. If you look at last season you have to go down to 20th to find a worse defensive record.

but his style of play has never really produced a solid style of play - it’s one that ships goals

we are looking for the clever option and in reality what we need is someone who understands the game and how to set up a team. the likes of hodgson but that’s not ‘cool’ enough

i can see that conceding 19 goals in 7 games is good for the sky cameras but it’s not great for the team and it’s aspirations

i agree there was less aimless passing last night and the possession stats reflected that. sometimes the players aren’t up to it and sometimes they aren’t set up and coached properly. sometimes both but at the moment the coach is having a total mare. god knows what the senior players make of it. his post match interview was alarming as well feels like we have made another gaff on the manager front

The last two games have been so bad they pretty much defy analysis. it’s pretty comical really having conceded 19 goals in 7 games. however as far as i can see martin is trying to play a brand of football that might only work if we had roberto carlos at left back and cafu at right back with kante in his prime at centre midfield. it’s nuts that we are trying to play a style of football that doesn’t in any way reflect the players we have. i’m really not sure where martin goes from here.

lots of negativity this morning feel like we should give it more time as it’s only 16 goals in 6 games and if you include gillingham it’s 19 in 7. it’s all a bit comical really as we don’t look like a serious team. and where is manji ? i despise people like him who hide after a defeat

it’s a question of when not if he goes

very different feeling to sunderland

agreed the whole shoes situation is odd

the guy ( or girl) has none

great insight

how bad was that

see what manj makes of it

we have conceded 9 goals in two games and 16 in 6 games - jesus christ

it’s pretty clear SR have got it wrong yet again with martin

16 goals in 6 games

9 goals in 2 games

the pits

what do you reckon manji ?

we’ve conceded 8 in 135 minutes

so open