Osvaldorama

😂😂😂 this thread has been magnificent

Well I wouldn’t have spied on other teams in such an obvious way. Nor would I have admitted to the charges to the opposition’s CEO. Then I would have delayed all the hearings for as long as possible. But failing all that, and with everything that’s gone on, I don’t have a fucking clue because I’m not a dinlo like parsons.

That statement… Jesus. We are absolutely cooked.

It’s not about what anyone thinks, it’s about what can be proven.

If you look at the big football scandals down the years, it seems that trying to film a training session on a phone is now equivalent to years of financial doping, breaking actual laws, drugging players, and match-fixing.

The point is; we were charged under one competition, then they’ve treated it as two. Which means we have received double the punishment. Although I actually agree with you, tbh. It’s all a load of nonsense. It’s been handled terribly. But you’re 100% right, the more we see what happened, the worse we look. We probably do deserve to be out of the competition now all this new stuff has come to light. I’m just hoping for a technicality that gets us to Wembley. Mostly because I think our “crime” is way less than most other teams do on a weekly basis.

Im not. But they can’t treat it as a seperate competition in one instance, then the same league in others. It’s part and parcel of the same league. Otherwise we’ve just been kicked out of a competition for a single breach. All of this is compltely incoherent. A good lawyer should have easily got us out of this imo. Well - I parsons didn’t go and run his mouth. Twat.

Looking at the regs, it’s not even clear what the definition of “Play-off” is.

Which is ridiculous as it means we’ve been kicked out of the playoff competition because of the photo of an intern with an iPhone. They can’t have it both ways. Either they’re the same competition or different. Our lawyers should kick off about this

Also, If they treat the playoff as a separate competition, we have been thrown out for one alleged incident. It seems they have picked their punishment based on arbitrary dates.

I’m still really struggling to come to terms with how stupid the club are. 1) to spy for barely any meaningful gain 2) to then admit we’ve done it, and agree to push the hearings up as quickly as possible. I cannot comprehend how brain dead this is. If you’re going to cheat, at least do it well. Then if you get caught, you HAVE to deny & delay until after the final. This entire thing is just so dumb I can’t put it into words.

yeah it’s fucking grim. I was at a trade show all day, raced across the country to be back for kick off. 19 hour day in total. All for nothing.

Yeah we are goosed. The charges are way worse than it was made out originally. Spying is a minor offence in my eyes, but all this evidence and the way we’ve presented our defence is absolutely amateur. No chance they’ll reinstate us. Still don’t understand why Boro are back in though, feels corrupt to me.

It’s so bad. Our attendances and atmosphere have been quality all season as well. Fans genuinely don’t deserve this at all.

This means the EFL have broken the consumer rights act

Ah. This must explain the time change then. Legally it becomes a different event.

Would love to know this. How can the same seats be sold twice, legally?

What if I say I want to use my ticket for the Hull v Boro game? How does that work legally ? Surely boro can’t resell Wembley tickets if we have them all? 😂

If we get our day out I honestly don’t care would be funny tbh. Lets hope for a minor stupid technicality that gets us there

This gets more and more absurd by the minute 😂

Never, ever hire these people. Worse at defending than us in the PL last season

😂😂😂😂. Clusterfuck But at least we aren’t boring

What about train tickets and parking? We’ve already paid for our parking. EFL have cost fans thousands. Genuinely a fucking joke they let us sell the tickets if this was a possible outcome

Our legal team has to be the worst in the world. Genuinely astonished that they didn’t just deflect and deflect until after the final. Fucking school boys

But guys, just imagine supporting anyone else? How boring must it be. We get to ride an emotional roller coaster for life