Farmer Saint

Yes. I never said I could explain it? You're having an argument with yourself.

Just read the post fuckwit.

Remind you of anyone?

Mate, I'm not the government, I don't work in any of the departments, I don't know the systems. I would not hazard a guess at what savings could be made, and why the Government hasn't done it yet, but I'd look at the massive investment figures it would take to do it. We all know about benefits, they wanted to cut it but weren't strong enough to qwell others within the party. That was a mistake. What I did do is make a shit load of money from my IT company which was based around process and efficiency savings that could be made when upgrading across SAP architectures. To do that you have to do full process management. We charged a £4bn turnover company £25m to do that, and it took 3 years. What do you think those figures would look like for these government departments? Anyway, I'm done with you, you've not answered the questions and you've embarrassed yourself more than enough today, and over the last 6 months. Laughable.

OMG - right, until you name some fucking immediate savings I'm tapping out as you're making this discussion a farce. You can't just say "savings" and "quango's". Fucking joke.

Ok, what immediate savings and longer term savings?

Because nobody has said there isn't wastage??? We go back to Whelk's comment earlier... "And please don’t say efficiencies like it is some magic bullet"

£40m's not a lot to rake in...they'll be disappointed with that. I have told you so many times why a lot of savings aren't being made. The analysis and investment that it takes to properly go though organisations to make them more efficient is fucking mind-blowing, and takes years. Years and years. Genuinely. I'm not saying you don't do it, but I think we'd need to start with a £40bn investment in IT and Process analysis, and 5 years to get the job done. We'd need to increase taxes to get that money btw.

By the way, I wouldn't put my neck out and say that savings can and should be made in certain areas without doing full process analysis and RCA. You'd be stupid to offer opinions on things like this without having a background in those areas. Otherwise you just look like your regurgitating what you've been told/read without thinking about it yourself, without the substance to be able to argue it. We've been through this with economics, tax and now Government efficiency savings. At some point you'll learn, but that doesn't seem to be yet.

What taxes have they increased so far, other than ERS NI? I'm not saying there are no savings to be made, never said anything like that, but you're the one saying that cuts need to be made and you can't substantiate that. Yet again, it's the lack of any substance. You specifically mentioned HS2 twice, and have yet to come up with what you would plan to save money on. Let's stick with that and get into what and how you want to save money.

Ah, but that sits under Capex, and not Opex, so they have clearly saved money...😆

So if you're not getting rid of it all together, what are you changing about it? I'm not sure at this stage there is much you can do to save money on it.

What about the business benefits from HS2? Waiting for updates benefits from 2019, but that seems a very business centric investment that surely you would want to keep? In relation to the rest, what changes do you want to make?

What quangos and governmental bodies would you get rid of specifically?

You meant to say "spending cuts". Amazing, as you consistently got it wrong. I wonder how Matt Cooper, mountaineer extroadinaire thinks 2p on income tax with affect his business and income. I also can't wait to hear from the Doctor when he realises the tax trap from £100-125k put in 16 years ago, and not reversed by the Tories. And the hassle of being VAT tax registered, give me a break.

Not tax cuts, cuts in public spending (benefits for example). They're saying these tax rises are a good thing, and the markets like them.

What??? I think you've misunderstood what is written above.

Speaking to Radio 4, Luke Hickmore of Aberdeen Investments said bond markets, where the government borrows, were “laser-focused on costs coming down and revenue rising”. He said the markets would take “comfort” from hints of tax rises but added that Reeves hadn’t said as much about plans to cut costs.

So...if we raise income tax by 2% will we be better or worse off than we were before we recklessly started cutting NI in 2024?

Tax on business, or tax on the public. I will ask again, what taxes are you so scared of? Not sure what you're saying I'm arguing.

Don't worry, you won't.

He can't be coming back - Alfie House said the club hated him.

Friends in Finance 😂 😂 😂 Jesus H Christ - so you are saying the all finance people believe in low taxes? You're ridiculous mate, you're floundering and talking even more shit. There is a rule when you get to certain levels, and that is "don't talk politics". I would heartily suggest you follow this as it will hold you back massively. You will be judged and rightly so. If you think everyone at board level lives in the world you are inventing, you will be very surprised if you ever get there.

I advise on IT strategy and infrastructure - you clearly have no idea what discussions go on at board level. Income tax is never discussed, because frankly, our time is pretty important and that is not. You're a bullshitter, you have been caught out multiple times. Own it.

I think he's a self-employed cleaner myself. He says he works in "Real estate" but won't give any sort of clue as to what he does in real estate. He consistently talks about low tax and pro-business policies, yet can't ever name one. He also doesn't understand how tax works and as soon as a difficult question is asked he can't give an answer, as if his Google search skills aren't good enough.