Pancake

I think MB is too young to remember the days of furtive shuffling to SBTB.

But you cant say that about ALL religious poeple. Its akin to saying ALL football followers are tattooed hoolies. Also, I think it would have a lot to do with a) people taking offense to their beliefs being called "irrational" and b) the fact that many religious poeple feel "scared" to talk about their beliefs publicly or privately due to many misconceptions about religions and the way that the mainstream world view religion.

Want a bigger brush to tar people with?

Interesting WS, this bit: could be used to help explain why Jesus was so highly thought of - a normal but sinless man who took on the weight of the world to prevent the suffering of others. That feeds into my own person view point of religion and God/Jesus etc so I don't expect others to buy in!

First off, Im not into the fact that Jesus was really a mortal personification of the son of God. Ive never really got this bit myself either. My take on the origin of it goes back to the Judaic rite of the "Scape Goat", a physical goat that was cast off into the "wilderness" (or killed, depending on which account of believe). The goat was mean to carry the sins of the people. Im not sure how or why the Christian belief system transfered the method of sin-removal to the human from a goat; or even why Ambrahimic religious feel the need to physically or metaphorically "send" their sins and the sins of others away. I suspect that this has to do with the belief that only those with cleansed souls can be granted access to whatever afterlife experience is available from their chosen religion. just my 2p.

Personally I count myself as a religious person. I attend church regularly (Anglican) and have 'studied' Christianity. Ive also 'studied' the history and basis of the major Christian factions; plus some reading into the other major religions (Judaism, Islam, Hinduism mainly). Personally I dont "follow" or "believe" in anything that can be disproved by science. I dont 'believe' a good 75-80 of the Bible; but I do believe in a lot of the teachings found within it. Conversly, I can see why other choose of believe in things that science CANNOT disprove, no matter how unlikely they are. For example, no-one can scientifically prove there is no God in the same way that no-one can prove there is no such thing as aliens . Anybody in this day and age would be slightly out of kilter to believe that a non-Earthly deity produced the Universe around the World within a set number of days etc. The same goes for some of the other things that religions peddle (the "hatred" of homosexuality being the main one that rankles me along with the repression on women), but there are very few things in life that one and accept 100% is there? There always has to be some give and take - I take some moral correctness and social consciousness from religious teachings, along with self worth and inner "peace" (w*nky I know); but then I totally disregard huge swathes of it too. Same be said of Politics, there is no party I can agree with on 100% of agenda items. And like with politics, I without my right to say "hold on,l thats b*ll*cks" to the people I 'follow'; and also to appreciate ideals and items from other parties/religions.

Bexy - Dont feed the troll.

Genesis - Invisible Touch. And I dont care.

Did he interview better then Art? Was his CV better? Did he have better references? Oh, you dont know! I assumed you were part of the panel that decided it based on your concrete statement above. FFS.

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I dont think it would be beneficial for the sport, but its a rather romantic view of the sport which I think would endear people towards it. I know when i was a kid I dreamed of either driving in F1 or being a team owner.

I never said that!

I think there was a film between them called the "The Polish Applied" though

Gutted, looks like our village is slowly being hit by it. Most kids are of school with it and a large portion of the adults are ill too. Bit worrying as we have a lot of older people in the village who live alone and are not of the beast of health anyway. Going to do be community duty and do some visits this evening.

The Prodigy - Invaders Must Die. Just going though my 2009 purchases and downloads to make some informed decisions.

Plus you know 99% of the fans are freaking loons too (no offense Jilly)

Each time I see your avatar I think Ive got 11 unread emails on my iPod. That is all.

True, but missing the point of why its a "load of absolute crap" though.

The Sportsdirect.com @ St James' Park Stadium. I **** you not. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8342406.stm Its like some crazy mixed up email address.

Oh climb off your high horse. 1) As Pomnty has already said, Toyota are looking to redeploy the staff to the other arms of motor sport division. I would assume there will be some job losses too, but that cannot be helped. 2) This is a thread chatting about F1 within the Motoring section of this website. The topic of conversation was the loss of the team from the grid, simple as that, sports based. Edit - Ah, I see. I just read through your post history and it seems that 99% of your posts are designed to start rows with other posters. Im sorry I took the bait, troll.

Dont feed the troll

Tester?

That was funny when it was posted on the old forum!

Them Crooked Vuktures - Mind Eraser, No Chaser (Tis OK, basically "late era" QOTSA with a touch of "debut album era" Foos) Steve Conte & The Crazy Truth - Eponymous (very good stuff, Steve is the guitar player in the New York Dolls. Good bluesy rock album)