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Which website?

Shots, Gills or Exeter for me please, away.

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Oh right, so you lot argue that there is no God, but you believe in a sub atomic part that no one has ever seen and a machine that travels backwards in time to sabotage itself! I jest of course... I do like the proposition that it's some kind of future shock coming back to turn itself off.

Since when was Tehran in Iraq?

Hold on Alpine, are you unhappy to see these stats?

Have we scored?

Love the first half review onthe OS.... "Kick Off 43: Booking - Harding Half time 0-0.

It's been down all day for me!

Please go back and read it then. And then come back to the end and show how science and proved that God doesnt exist. (clue - it hasn't because it can. Nor can it prove he does exist for that matter)

MLG, seriously when you start to use phrases like "here is proof Jesus was lying" you start to look a bit like a conspiracy theorist.

TBF, your constant Bible bashing is as boring as constant Bible-bashing. I have a feeling you are just copying an pasting your previous posts over and over in some odd attempt at winding up those on here who "believe". The funny thing is, most have already said that there are portions of the Bible that, if take on face value and literally, make for rather uncomfortable reading and are plain wrong. Yet you feel the need to keep pointing it out, over and over. Why? I'm not going to try and argue the toss with you over your specific points as Hypo tried that yesterday and all he got was the same quote time and time again - and frankly I don't have the time or patience to sit through swathes of quotes, counter quotes, interpretations and meanings on a Friday afternoon when my son is waiting for me to play Lego with him. I'll leave you with this. The items you list above are, from memory, all mention in the more vitriolic books of the Old Testament. If one is to take the OT at face value, then they are missing the point more that someone who takes the New Testament at face value. To say you believe that the OT God was OK with rape, murder etc is also to say that you believe the OT God also created the world in 7 days and we started from Adam and Eve. You either believe it all or you dont. You can chose which bits you want to learn from or see the true meaning in, thats a different matter. Its all to some extent, falsified information as none of it is written by "God" themself; it is all simply the writers explanation of what has happened and why they think it has. If God does exist, would he really have "ordered" his followers to rape and kill children? Somehow I doubt that would the MO of any omnipresent deity. Or is it more likely that a hardcore band of 'God followers' undertook some actions against another group of people and tried to justify it after the event in the form of a story?

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Once again, you seemed to miss the point of what I was saying. Myabe I was being to subtle. But thanks for backing up the view I expressed a few posts ago!

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But thats not my question, Phil...

Awesome threesome.

Nah, she is like a cut price version of the lovely Zooey Deschanel.

Yes. Sorry, i didnt see that.

Credit to you both for replying, but I feel you have both missed my point. Maybe I didnt put it well enough, sorry if that was the case. I wasnt asking for anyone to prove of the non-existance of God. There is NO proof that God does exist. There is NO proof that God doesnt exist. To subscribe to either train of though replies on an amount of 'faith' in what you believe is right, due to the dichotomy above; and yet the burden always rest on those that do believe to try and prove it and ask why believe in something that cannot be proved. When asked how they can prove the God doesnt exist and how they can believe something they cant rpove, normally the reply from the non-religious is as above from VFTT and saintsforever (not picking on you chaps, you understand).

Yo Shearer, where the f**king mix?

So, by that token, you are saying that non-believers have to just have faith that there is no God? Isnt that the same thing they use to degrade those that have faith that there is a God? When the principle point of a subject cannot be proved or disproved, it takes a leap of faith from both sides to believe in their view point.

Stevo, perfect thanks.

Not bad, defo want Windoze and really need an DVD writer on it too. Sorry, should have said that in the first post!

Same problem with me, hence my initial post on page one. I choose to describe myself as religious and I *think* I believe in a god-like "force" but I cant go the whole hog and believe.