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Why not just put the first team in tailored suits and have done with it?

P'raps it's the result of having a not very rarified upbringing, but child abuse is something that people I've known have always seen as way beyond creepy or bad form. Some people feel so strongly about having a nonce about that they'll murder the suspect, vigilante style. No euphemisms, no hyperbole. I know someone that got life imprisonment for doing so, and it wasn't even anyone he knew. Same thing would happen every day in prisons, were child sex offenders allowed to mix with general population. I've no idea whether the level of sentiment that exists today was as strong back in the 1970s. Maybe some of the older people on this site can speak to your point about it being creepy or bad form. What has always been true is that anyone engaging in such practices is utterly compromised, a quick and easy target for blackmail and a national security risk.

Fine work, bletch.

Do we have any evidence that Cortese really wanted the golden arches, or is this just a superb piece of moustache twirling villainy from the new board? Things I will accept as proof:- 1) Cortese and his entire family attending an opera in this kit, in full kit wánker mode. 2) A statement from the man himself, saying something along the lines of "this kit (and Swedish made penis enlargers) is really my bag, baby" 3) Any sort of official purchase order coming from the club with NC's signature ( preferably with "this kit is the bladdy shít!" scrawled in the margins ).

Best kit since the sash. I'm not even that partial to stripes.

Loads of LFC tweets saying its only 16mil + addons

Keep contributing, sir

News in today. Leon Brittan is being asked to comment on a dossier of paedophiles within Westminster in the 1980s. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28113517 http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/02/lord-brittan-westminster-paedophile-information-exchange-dossier Somewhat predictably, the World at One revealed that all of the paperwork has gone missing. Brittan is an interesting choice of commentator. Allegations have been made against him in the past.

Sonisphere this weekend if you're up for more Metallica, KRG. Airbourne are playing too.

I thought it fitting that the picture was unable to contain his head

Oh aye, just illustrating the uselessness of contracts in football. The skills are so highly sought after that no-one gives a f**k if you're an arse or not.

Not sure it'll ever be proved, but I've read further on all three of those rumours. His sexual abuse of children is now pretty well known. There's a piece from CNN on how he apparently claimed to have spent time in mortuaries. http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/26/world/europe/uk-jimmy-savile-abuse-report/ Also, the Louis Theroux documentary is pretty revealing in this respect. He talks about how having his dead mother in his flat for five days was one of the happiest of his life, as he had her all to himself. Paul Gambaccini also made the necrophiliac claims, but he is now under suspicion himself, and is still under bail conditions. Finally, I've seen it suggested several times that Savile might have been involved in some of the Yorkshire Ripper murders. They definitely corresponded. So, this is a man accused of all these things and more. Friends with successive prime ministers, friends with royalty, a knight of the realm, a papal knight and the Order pro merito Melitensi. He was reportedly called in to help Charles and Di patch things up in the early days (his claim). Regardless of whether that last story is true, the rest is verifiable through documentary and photographic evidence. Are we to believe that Cold War vetting didn't pick his proclivities up, when it was an "open secret" at the BBC and he had so much access to so many VIPs? Spinning back to the D-Notice point (or DA Notice point), high profile paedophiles within the establishment do constitute a national security risk. They're all compromised, can all be blackmailed and can all be made to work against the interest of the people they are supposed to serve.

That comes into it; length of career comes into it too. LFC don't need a player with morals; Suarez shows that. They just need a performer. If he does that, I'm sure that apart from the disappointed collective of Saints fans, it'll quickly be forgotten. Lineker is already bigging him up as a player that'll take Liverpool by storm. He better had. Very good player this season, but bloody frustrating last year and as others have said, not particularly adept at shooting. The Kopites won't be as forgiving when that final ball goes awry.

I just signed a new contract this morning. It's for 6 months, and guess what? I have to complete the lot, EVEN if some other company comes in and offers me three times my salary. That's a contract, kids - and I've lost money for being tied down before. Of course, the flipside of that is the other side of the contract. I'm guaranteed money for that time period. I could, like Ads, stamp my feet, refuse to work and be bounced out immediately, but then I'd probably have a lot of indemnity claims coming my way, especially if me breaching my contract hurt the organisation I was f**king over. Word would also get around that I'm the sort of person that'll fk clients over. Think that would happen everywhere else, except football.

Just read this out to ms pap. Needless to say, she was less impressed than I was.

Chin up people. New board game on market soon.

Fk off mush. It is months until Halloween.

I disagree. There's cumulative and ongoing evidence that he was hankering for a move against the clubs wishes, up to and including the two sentence statement from the club and the "Adam Lallana loves ya really" paid advertisement that'll worm its way onto the pages of the Echo. If he wasn't the originator of the pre-World Cup wantaway stories, then he could have refuted them outright in the press. He didn't, so I think we can assume that those stories came from his camp, especially given the dreadful interview today - which seems to confirm his long-held wish to play for Liverpool. We had the grim spectacle of our captain undermining the club on the eve of one of its most notable successes; sending three of its players to the World Cup. I don't know why people are regarding strike rumours as preposterous. Why else do you think a 14 year servant of the club got a two sentence statement, not even thanking him?

I'm sorry, I wasn't taking a single letter from a Conservative MP as complete refutation too seriously there. Was I meant to?

Alex Crook is banging on about Lallana reportedly telling Southampton FC that he'd never play for them again prior to his move.

It seems terribly depressing at first glance, but there are clubs much bigger than us that have exactly the same problems. Take Borussia Dortmund and Atletico Madrid as examples. Both operate business models which involve buying low and selling players on at a profit to reinvest. Atleti won the Spanish league this year, while Dortmund are one of the few teams remotely capable of taking on Bayern. All about being able to identify and sign quality replacements.

I've treated each and every Arcade Fire album with suspicion. I was stupid enough to ignore the first one for years, p'raps thinking it too arty for my rock n roll base. Neon Bible was dark and gloomy and I hated it. Suburbs seemed like so much filler. Didn't know if they'd pull off a double album in Reflektor or remain Arcade Fire by stepping onto the dance floor. Think all of their albums are excellent now; Juvy Unit #1 has been playing Reflektor stuff loads in the car and it has all clicked. I think their performance was the highlight for me, mainly because we went down as a family and had a communal bop. They really can do it live, and no direction they went in musically would surprise me anymore. I do love Modern Man and We Used To Wait, tho.

Haut de la Garenne, the dead politicians that have been revealed to be paedophiles, the support network they must have enjoyed, Thatcher's PPS, the titular monster of this thread, his close links with royalty and the establishment and the broad scale of his operations. More recently, Patrick Rock. No VIPs were arrested during Operation Ore. Leverage is more important than justice, I guess. Still, serve up some more light entertainers for the crowd, eh?

Sounds like the jury was convinced that Rolf did it. It's good that the victims will be getting some recognition of the harm done to them, and hopefully some closure. I would like to see Operation Yewtree go after more challenging and significant targets, maybe unlift those D-Notices that Blair put on Operation Ore. http://www.tpuc.org/blair-covering-up-paedophile-scandal/