Gemmel

I think you can put money on it. I have decided not to go and after reading these threads, feel completelty vindicated and that's even before I start thinking about the bubble.

Im sure you deserved it and if you didnt, it goes someway to making up for what a tool you are on here.

It was a career (Saints) ending performance.

Cheers Ess - If I get one, can you help me jailbreak it

Anyone got this? Thinking about this as a christmas present and can get the standard apple tv for 100 or apple tv jail break (?????) for 149. Is this jail break worth it , is the actual whole thing worth it? Cheers

Yes

Why did you resign Benji? Thanks for the Becks..... Didn't need the packet paracetmol that came with

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16102052.stm I'm not comparing the clubs as equals,, Everton is by far the bigger and more succesful club of the two (Even if that does include the little ******s Heath's input), but they have suffered season long protests at their board and Chairman, for lack of investment. In the last five years they have finished a very impressive 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th & 7th. Which from an outsider looking in, pretty much resembles the pecking order as I see it. But Everton fans obviously want more and feel they are worthy of more. Kenwright has always come across as decent, do the right thing by the club, sort of chairman and much in the same way as lowe, has refused to add to the debt, but insisted he is looking for investment. I think the Everton fans are wrong (But there could be much more to the story), but was wondering if we were the same, when demanding lowe step down, bringing in wilde in the hope of new money etc? Did we as fans want bigger things, than the clubs size and revenue dictated? I've got the Everton fans down as a bit ungrateful after reading that - Do you think other clubs thought that of us, during the protests? (Stand up if you want lowe out etc.) or is it just a case that money rules football now and nothing else really matters.

Had a very strange fp experience, about 10 years ago, when an old work colleague who was a Wolves fan had a spare ticket for a night game between them and pompey. Could never bring myself to sing another teams songs, but quite happy to cheer when Wolves took the lead, there were a couple more goals and I think the score was 2- 2 with about 10 minutes left. pompey started to taunt wolves and from the back of the away section a there was a weak response of "Oh When The Saints" (Much like opposition today will sing play up pompey at us). I'm not a big song starter, but ran to the front and started bellowing OWTHS as loud as I could. The whole Wolves end joined and the skates (Still half empty back then) started running down to the Wolves fans foaming at the mouth. Totally sureal, hadn't known I was going until about an hour or so before the game and there on a freezing cold Tuesday night, I was singing OWTHS at full blast with about 1,500 Wolves fans behind me. The warm glow, turned warmer as Wolves scored a late winner and sank the skate *****s

And some burnt bread in a toaster

Gaydamck is also owed 5 million is cold hard SECURED cash. (Remember the debarcle when lampitt threatened to wind the club up if gaydamak didn't agree to recieving this over a period of time...... throw another 5 million into the mix.

So we now have a club with 20 million of CVA debt, 17 million of Chanrai secured debt (This could be more) 5 million of gaydamak secured debt, 10 million of CSI debt, no training ground, don't own their ground an "An around the houses admission", they are still not self financing, their parent company in administration, potential points deduction, awaiting the results of the insolvency commission investigation on their last administration, an forensic investigation into their affairs (Seemingly sponsored by HMRC) and court case result under media blackout and a pending trial for their previous owner and previous manager. I can't see what all the fuss is about. If that little lot above can't attract a decent billionaire, what hope for the rest of us? Oh and there's fat in water at fratton park :scared: Lindleys (forwarded by Tony Goodall, PISA) • It was disappointing that there had been a recent occasion where some food had run out during a match day. • Lindleys had apologised for this occurrence, which was caused by a promotion where pies and drinks had been given away free with match tickets. This should not happen again. • Catering for the Southampton game will be available via the normal areas. • It was noted that for recent games, the South Stand had hot water available but, unfortunately, hot fat had found its way into the system which had affected things.

Questions and discussion with David Lampitt Update • At this point of the meeting, David Lampitt and Nick Byram joined. Bob Beech had to leave the meeting. • David gave an update on the situation at the club. • CSI have gone into administration, the club itself are not in administration. Andrew Andronikou has been appointed as administrator for CSI, and has been tasked with finding buyers for the subsidiaries of CSI, which include Portsmouth FC. It is a matter of trying to find the best solution for all concerned. • The charge against the club has reverted to Balram Chainrai. • It is not expected that the club itself will go into administration. • There are funds in the bank to finance the club for a time, but the sooner investment is achieved the better as it secures the future of the club. • Nobody anticipated the events which have happened, there was great surprise with the events surrounding Vladimir Antonov and, as a result, CSI. • The Football League have a decision to make as regards a potential points discussion, the club have to manage the relationship with the Football League and David is speaking to the Football League daily. • It is preferred that any decisions made by the Football League is made as soon as possible as the decision could affect any bid and investment for the club. There have already been some expressions of interest in the club. Response to questions from the Conference, and additional Q&A • David answered, as far as he could, a series of questions which had been forwarded to him by the Conference. • Who are the shareholders of Portsmouth FC (2010)? – The shareholding is now held by the administrators, beforehand the shareholding was totally held by CSI. • What was the buy out arrangement when CSI took over the club from Chainrai and Kushnir? – There was a schedule of payments, a deferred consideration. • Do Chainrai and Kushnir still have a charge on Fratton Park and the assets of the club? – The charge on the club reverted to Balram Chainrai because of the situation with CSI. • It was pointed out that no money from the club has gone outwards to CSI, day to day financial operations stay totally within the club. • Can the club provide guarantees that any ticket money or ½ ST money coming into the club is staying within the club and is ring-fenced and safeguarded? – A guarantee is given that all money from half season ticket sales will stay within the club, as do all funds generated by the club. Half season ticket monies bought on debit or credit cards are released to the club on a game by game basis. • It was noted that CSI have provided top up money outside the standard club revenue streams. • What does the club owe CSI and Antonov? – A sum of money was invested into the club by CSI, of approximately £10.8m. The debt was to CSI, so responsibility for payment of the loan will fall to any future owner. Discussion of debts and a deal for the club is possible, it is felt that some realism has to be reached as regards a price for the club. • The money from Antonov went on a mixture of dealing with legacy issues, alongside summer transfer spending and associated wage commitments. CSI raised the ambition of the club. • If we are one of Antonov’s frozen assets, how will the club be affected? – This is difficult to answer but there is always a possibility that the club could be affected in this way. The club has some protection though in that we are now under the office of the court due to CSI being put into administration. • Does Vladimir Antonov remain chairman of the club? - No, he has stepped down and a replacement chairman has not been appointed. The four club directors remain as they were. • Can we meet our day to day commitments? – Yes we can short term although, as mentioned earlier, the sooner investment is found the better all round. All parties involved are solely interested in keeping the club going and in existence. It is a difficult balance as the club are confident short term funds are available, but we will need investment into the club. • The question was asked if this funding stream was Balram Chainrai, and this was thought to be an accurate assumption. • It is noted that the club have no funding from banks at the current time. • The club are up-to-date with all scheduled payments which have resulted from the summer transfer dealings and the books, in reality, are in a good state. The position of the club, and any potential sale, was compared to that of Nottingham Forest, where the owner has put in £70m into the club, which will need to be paid back, with Forest also not owning their ground. • The club will continue to look at ticket pricing across the board following the success of the half season ticket sales. • Whilst the situation at the club does not make David uncomfortable, obviously the sooner investment is found and confirmed, the sooner people can relax. • A comment was made that, considering Antonov’s known background, that David and the club should not have been surprised at the turn of events. David stated that there was nothing in Antonov’s history to say that he definitely couldn’t invest in a football club, and the Football League have to act legally within their tests. • It was noted that, at best case scenario, with due diligence to be carried out, it is optimistic to believe that an owner could be in place by the end of January. • David stressed that it is important fans continue to support the club. • It was noted that SOS Pompey will sit down with the club to discuss the planned protest at the beginning of the week, with David being assured that fans from other clubs apart from Portsmouth will be in attendance at the protest. Date of next meeting To be arranged

We noticed

He is taking the pish out of you

Right scrap the cup run revenue plan

cokc.....too many posts for someone that doesnt have a clue.

Ha ha....what fool said John Major He was the very best negociator in Europe out of all of them put together. Just a shame he spoke as badly as milliband

And that is why they should be nervous. Let's not kid ourselves that Marcus fell in love us based on our plight and the fact he could save us. For a cash rich billionaire, it was an attractive proposition, that will deliver somewhere above a five times return, when the family sells us as a Premiership club. I suspect that chinny will takeover the club, run it on a showstring until the parachute money drys up or he has got his money back (Could be 7 million up on the deal if csi gave him the first upfront payment) and then flog it on. However if fratton park is worth more to him as a development project, then they should on the phone to moneyfields ASAP.

The price agreed (As per Mark Fry) was 13. something million. We then sold Surman, so whatever was deducted off the asking price for that, is what Marcus bought us for......going by the books the total investment as of the last set of accounts is around 24 million (including the purchse price). Then there is the 15 million for Chamberlain, throw in promotion this year and you get an idea as to why ML was a billionaire. Compare that to antonov who reportedly paid 17 million for a club, with no infrastructure, no players, no ground and 120 million in debt and you get the idea as to why va is in the poo

From what I have read and understand, It looks like that not only did Chanarai have a charge against fratton park, he also had a charge against the entire CSI group / assets. Now that might seem strange, but it probably makes sense, due to the fact the 17 milllion rumored for pompey, included 5 players that would command a transfer fee, plus the remaining parchute payments and fratton park isnt actually worth that much......coupled with the fact that there really isnt any other significant revenue streams in the CSI group. So by the fact that he has called in the adminstrators against his charge, he gets to choose the administrator. Now it's not quite as black and white as that, but it is the general gist. Also worth remembering (As Guided Missile pointed out) android is selling a group of companies that potentially have been acquired and funded with peoples savings. Regardless of what he might think now, it might not be his to sell.

So there was enough money in the bank to cover Novembers wages, but Decembers might be on a lost or broken disk somewhere. chinny to re take ownership January 4th

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15831923.stm BBC stats

Why would you want to highlight the failings of the FAPPT?.... that works in pompeys favour

Best one so far