Saint_clark

The social media team will do what they do regardless.

We should try and find out what Boros away kit is going to be and announce it as ours first.

😂😂😂 Had they really build themselves up to exactly half past that much?

Good news guys, once all this nonsense is over we get to talk about transfer rumours for a few months.

Even the "started in a chapel" song inexplicably speeds up when you get to "we sing this song for you".

Mate, just stop. It happened, he did it, now we just need to know how far knowledge of it went within the club.

How are they doing now?

If there's one thing you can praise Boro for in this it's that their antics have had the desired effect, it's being treated as a much more serious offence than it actually is by the people who matter in the eyes of sponsors - the media.

It's more around the damage to the clubs reputation than anything else. This will affect potential sponsors etc.

If Tonda is involved I think they'll announce there will be an internal review following the play off final, already knowing they'll get rid of him. But to sack our manager just before the final would be so self destructive.

He's literally got football in his name, how much more credible can you get?

Absolutely corrupt. So wealthy clubs can pay a bribe to the authorities to be allowed to spend beyond what the rules allow on transfers and wages.

You really had me questioning whether I'd added that word at the end myself there, you bastard. Had to go back and check the post for myself.

Not a fan of these analogies but I'll play along...those offences carry pre-defined sentencing guidelines. Our breach of the rules does not.

Not in the slightest, I'm sick of it. Not sure why you think that, sorry I'm not falling in line with the common view of the echo chamber.

Breaches of the rules with undefined punishments will always be looked at in isolation from other events. In short, what Leicester got is completely irrelevant.

Yes, but we tried to. Again the EFL are taking it seriously whether we think it is or not. I'm expecting a fine in the millions and a 4 to 6 point deduction.

Agree to disagree. Like it or not, the EFL are taking this very seriously.

You could sit on his?

I think a points deduction above 10 we will try to get reduced as disproportionate, and it's also possible if we have 14 days to appeal we will wait and see the result in the final - win and we will let it lie, lose and we may as well appeal any outcome to try and get it reduced.

Charities hopefully but I doubt it.

Almost certainly not. I'm also not entirely sure why you would think that would be better than a 6 point deduction.

Why should we?

It kind of is. As has been pointed out from a legal stand point; "In Derby v EFL (SR/017/2020) (Derby), an EFL disciplinary commission set out four purposes a sanction must serve: 1. Punishment of the club for the breach 2. Vindication for other clubs not engaged in conduct that breached the rules 3. Deterrence from future rule breaches, whether by the breaching club or other clubs 4. Restoration and preservation of public confidence in the fairness of EFL competitions. The appeal board in Everton, when considering Derby, went on to clarify that punishment is far less important than maintaining the integrity of the competition and the sport of football, with deterrence being an important overlapping aim (paragraph 199)" Point 4 is the key one here. They will want to make sure that any punishment isn't seen as a token one with us basically completely getting away with it. No, we're almost certainly not getting thrown out - although it is clear that they aren't ruling that option out - but it won't be just a fine or a token points deduction either, it will be a sporting sanction which is significant enough to act as a serious deterrent and satisfy outside observers that we've been punished accordingly.

I said the punishment needed to be taken seriously, not that it needed to be as harsh as possible.