Fan The Flames

Set it free so it can thrive unencumbered in the sunny uplands.

Just by saying 'you know this' doesn't make it right. It's obligations and funding method are separate. The BBC could easily be funded in a different way and still be required to operate in a similar way. I would go as far as to say, that the BBCs culture is it's USP and that it wouldn't want to change it, even if it was allowed to, when the funding model inevitably changes. What you are really saying is that the percieved left wing bias in some peoples heads makes them not want to be obligued to pay for it. That is a million miles away from 'intrinsically linked'.

The Israel government accused the impartial BBC of contemporary blood libel for partially misattributing the perpetrators of the hospital bomb. Whilst the initial coverage was damaging to the Israeli government, it was an honest error and not part of an antisemitic agenda. War is chaotic, for the antagonists as well as those reporting it.

The BBC mission set up by it's charter is to be impartial, the way the BBC is funded is via the licence fee, two separate things. By intrinsically linked you're saying you can't have impartiality without the licence fee, that's not correct. Impartiality is preserved by not being funded directly by the government, but a subscription form of funding could preserve that as well, even advertising funding could.

The licence fee and impartiality are two different things. Other than that, good point.

The prize for the tories is TV deregulation, they are desperate for partizan partial fox style channels. They want to pump the airwaves full of culture war bollocks, because they know their politics is failing.

And we're stuck in the last century 🤣

I was being provocative. Seeing as you took my bite, I'll take yours; how can a president be more expensive than a king with all the hanger ons.

What about having to pay for the King that most don't want. Or having to pay for GB News just because you want a football channel. Or me having to pay for my wives pasta when I fucking hate spaghetti bolognese.

You disagree with the above, so do I. Do you agree that, whilst some small factions of religious nutters on both sides might, the majority of the Israelis and the Palestinians do not want to remove each other from the land between the Dead Sea and the Mediterranean.

The BBC is impartial.

Love it, such good value for money. If it aint broke and all that.

Thought so, carry on.

The section with Sir Alex Younger, former chief of MI6 is worth a listen. He articulates a position at the end of his interview, that many on here agree with. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r9mn?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

Some Israeli and Jewish groups among the protestors at the Israeli Embassy in Washington yesterday. https://www.npr.org/2023/10/18/1206893627/from-amman-to-d-c-protests-erupt-for-palestinians-following-the-gaza-hospital-bl

How do you think ITV are doing, out of interest?

I'm talking about where is Hamas's mission statement, policy, charter, terms of reference that states this. I would be interested in seeing it.

This is quite something, Israel has said it used 6,000 bombs in the first six days of the conflict, more than the US used in a year during its operations in Afghanistan and double what the US-led coalition used against Islamic State in Iraq and Syria in a month. From https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/18/al-ahli-arab-hospital-piecing-together-what-happened-as-israel-insists-militant-rocket-to-blame?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

A lot of this stuff is being said at the moment, what is the evidence for this?

I trust Bellingcat. Question what is the significant of the lack of crater to the Israeli’s.

Biden has been convinced that the hospital bombing was not by Israel.

Yes, no one wants a forever war. Talking generally, terror doesn't get terrorists what they want, what it can do is get them a place at the discussion table.

No, go after the terrorists, put them on trial, execute them, whatever. But you won't destroy the group or their ideology by smashing the place up. There has to be a route map for peace in the region.

The west were in Afghanistan for 20 years post 9/11 and couldn't get rid of the Taliban. The Taliban rode back into town just as the US planes were taking off. You can't destroy militant groups.

I was calling you out on your behaviour, you are the one calling people cunts, pricks and calling someone an antisemite based on a couple of posts. I get it you don't like being told you're wrong, nobody does.