Fan The Flames

So in amongst all this evil behaviour in Isreal and Gaza, your concern is the about the left of politics maybe being more hard on one out of line regime then another out of line regime and maybe they are doing it because they are racists. Is that the most important thing to you in all this. There will be antisemites using this opportunity to be hateful, doesn't mean the others criticising Isreal are antisemitic. That's in your head Why does the Israeli government get this free pass. It's not racist to criticise the Rwandan government, or to hate Putins government or North Koreas or China, was it racist to hate the Apartheid South African government. But we are just soppy pricks, righteous hypocrites and racists cunts for wanting a solution to the long standing situation in Isreal. And the line about your husband was a bit pathetic as well.

You better hope she takes after her other parent then. I really can't work out why you are on some delldays mission to prove people to be righteous hypocrites. Just arguing your point should be enough.

What did you shout at her? Palestinian fan boy, antisemite, thick cunt or do you just save that language for people you don't know on a message board?

Joke or real 🤷🏽‍♂️

😁 he's right though I got my mrs pregnant within 6 months of meeting.

My brother in law bought us a miniature King Arthur sword in a stone from Cornwall, a 12 inch sword standing in a plastic stone. It's fucking awful, my wife doesn't want to hurt his feelings, but after a month or so I hid it away.

Give it a rest mate, you don't like SOG we get it.

Putin has now waded in, he knows how to troll the world. If he wasn't anti-US/Isreal he would be defending Isreal's right of defense. This is part of the problem with this region, full of proxy and external actors.

But you rightly said earlier in the thread, that picking a side isn't helpful. This is a very long, heavily layered, complex issue that makes this type of symbolism difficult.

Shameful.

And America, Israel's ally. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/11/israel-palestine-latest-news-updates-hamas-gaza-day-5-live/

Well if you mean Hamas, say Hamas and not Palestinians or these people. Language matters. Also where have I not condemned Hamas or been anti-Israeli. Stop making up what you think other people think.

And there we have it the sub-human trope. Your anger betrays you.

As you say Jimmy Savile met loads of politicians, but Thatcher's tory party was especially fond of him https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10691805/How-Jimmy-Savile-duped-royals-Bombshell-Netflix-documentary-claims.html

So some Israelis don't want the Palestinians living amongst them. Now we are getting to the core of the issue.

It didn't work with the Taliban even after 20 years of suppression.

Do you think there is a good side and a bad side in the Isreal/Palestine conflict?

Your a probably right, their position simply picks itself this time around.

Why ask me a question and then give a sarcastic answer yourself, why do you get so aggressive in every discussion, whether it is this, brexit, politics, football. Your certainty on every subject is tiresome. Do you think there is a good side and a bad side in the whole Israel/Palestine issue?

No I agree, that has been part of the problem. The left and the right pick sides and turn things into binary choices that isn't helpful.

Atrocities have to be dealt with proportionately, I have no problem with that. We know that there will be people getting what they deserve, but there will also be plenty of people getting what they don't deserve. And the cycle continues. I wasn't talking about the Israeli responce, but of the other influential voices and it is more useful it they stay calm. There are enough religious nutter countries doing the opposite.

Of course wanting peace remains an option. What's the alternative, resorting to carnage. That will only make peace harder to achieve. What can our governments do apart from trying to be calming external voices. That wasn't even my point. My point was obvious, demonising a whole race because of some vile cunts won't help.

Again you can want a peaceful existence for Palestine and be digusted by the acts of Palestinian terrorists.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67083432 LD, they are not telling you what to think, but leaving you to make up you mind. Or do you need to be told what to think?

With Egypt claiming they warned Israel, how long before the conspiracy theories start.