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Indeed....Miliband attended a party thrown by Murdoch a few weeks ago because they are best buddies. Nowt to do with the political day job.

Yes. There are many ways to get hold of the PIN. I think we can all agree on that. Even the gormless ones like me.

Yes, of course the PIN numbers were acquired by other means too. But just because it's possible to break into someone's house by smashing a window doesn't mean you don't lock the front door. Sigh. p.s. good use of the word 'gormless' though. Well done.

It's no more complicated than the lock on your front door or car door. "Older" people are just more comfortable with less modern types of security, not security per se. The principles are the same. You can always ask the person who sells it to you to help you around the "complexities" of changing a voicemail PIN. It's common sense rather than rocket science. IMHO of course

I just tried 'hacking' into my own phone only to find I couldn't because I had changed the voicemail PIN when I purchased it a couple of years ago. Of course I'm not condoning illegal and immoral behaviour, but if more people were security conscious then it wouldn't be easy to hack in the first place.

Skacel (once we've signed him in the first place, obviously)

If they had quietly absorbed the £1 parking fee into the price of a season ticket, I would venture that no-one would have batted an eyelid, even though the net payment would be the same as paying for it separately. I guess transparancy has its pros and cons....

Which is greater? The number of "u-turns" by the ConDems, or the number of bandwagons that Miliband clambours upon? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14073718 "Labour leader Ed Miliband has called for the Press Complaints Commission to be scrapped in the wake of the phone hacking scandal at the News of World. He said the PCC was "a toothless poodle" and a new body with "proper investigative powers" was needed." Anyone keeping count?

Eh? When did that rule come into effect?! I've always assumed the rules said: "You are entitled to post your opinion to which anyone who disagrees with it will distastefully shout you down and call you a mong" These forum rule changes need to be publicised more clearly IMHO.... ;-)

I think what a few are highlighting is that it is possible (in all walks of life, not just on internet football forums) for "positivity" to spill over into "over zealous" or "sycophantic" terriotory, and when it does it can come across as less sincere than more measured positivity. It's a bit like the difference between the English and Americans. By Day 3 of a holiday in Florida a few years back I was ready to lamp the next American that gave me an exagerated "Have a nice day sir" everytime I bought or asked for something. In other words, too much positivity can often come across as artificial. IMHO of course :-)

I tend to agree with this viewpoint rather than the ticker-tape brigade. The signing doesn't even warrant a one liner in the Daily Fail this morning. It's a good signing. No more, no less.

I don't think much of our new home kit TBH...

You hum it, i'll play it... :-)

Boom. Tish. Here all week per chance? :-))

Who?

jordansibley: Long old day in the office today, but it's all worth it when things finally come together. Make of that what you will...

Actually, crafty move by Murdoch - watch the sales go through the roof this weekend..... ;-)

Damn....another one slips through the net.... http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07072011/58/world-football-fowler-shock-move-thailand.html

A poignant anniversary tomorrow (8th July) - the 2nd anniversary of Markus Liebherr plucking Southampton Football Club from the jaws of liquidation - and the first anniversary since his untimely passing last year. A date in the club's history that we'll never forget. RIP Markus and thank you again.

What you talkin' about Willis?

I know the words 'nut' and 'shell' are much over used on here but never have they been more apt than in response to the post above. The British public are largely apathetic (apart from when it comes to having a grumble on an internet forum of course....)

You didn't replace Mr Fry per chance?

That depends on whether they were telling the truth on an internet football forum.... ;-)

I'm landed gentry so I live off my inheritance