Matthew Le God

That is the issue you aren't getting. The purpose of expanding is to allow under the rules for more spending so we can do well. Plus we have sold out every game this season despite not doing well. That shows current capacity is too small.

Yet again... you ignored all the points I made and questions I asked. The post above is bizarre. Your logic appears to be that them not previously expanding the stadium means they won't in the future! That is daft. Plus in any case they have spent quite a lot of money on stadiums projects up to this point.

How have you come to that conclusion? Are they in talks about it for a laugh?

Rather than just laughing @saintant try addressing the points and questions in my previous two posts that you avoided

The owners have already invested a lot of money in the club as the accounts on Companies House show. Infrastructure spending is not included in financhial rules so it allows them to spend big. It ultimately makes sense financially for the reasons I mentioned regarding the change in financhial rules switching to % of turnover. Increasing the turnover increases the amount we can spend under the rules on transfers and wages, so if spent well increases our chances of doing better in the PL.

We have sold out every game whilst being terrible this season. That shows thd stadium is too small. A decent Sainrs side would sell more tickets than the current terrible one. Even in the Championship last season we averaged 29k+, with a lot of those empty seats being in the away end when Championship opponents didn't sell the away end. Expanding the stadium allows for an increase in revenue which allows Saints to better compete under new financial regulations that restrict spending to a % of turnover. How you've determined 'a probable long wait to get back to the Premier League' under the owners I'd also unclear. Given they've already had one promotion, will have full parachute money and a squad of top Championship players if relegated this season.

There isn't a high enough quality of player in the Championship for that to be a major issue. It I'd an issue this season as Martin is using it vs a significantly higher level of opponent in the PL.

Just a reminder here that the PSR are scrapped. The new system is aligned with the squad cost-to-revenue ratio contained within UEFA's Financial Sustainability Regulations (FSR). Those regulations will eventually limit clubs to only spend 70 per cent of revenue on transfer fees, player wages and so on. That is why increasing turnover through infrastructure investment and increasing commercial revenue is important.

Every little helps

My point was they won't move because for players like Armstrong, Brereton Díaz, Archer and many others of our players we are the best club they can play for. They won't be coveted by PL clubs and if we use them in the Championship they will be stand out players at that level.

Yes, it does. Our squad is packed full of top Championship players. That is a problem this season. But if relegated, we'll have a squad instantly ready to be a top club in the lower league. Even without those you listed the remaining players have already shown themselves to be more than capable of that level.

A club where the player will see the benefit in moving to. For example Armstrong, Brereton Díaz and Archer are all capable of scoring for fun in the Championship and won't be of interest to PL clubs. Or do you disagree on that? Edited just now

Of course some will go, but how many would be an attractive purchase for better clubs? Walker-Peters, Dibling, Ramsdale... who else? Armstrong, Brereton Díaz, Archer are all capable of scoring for fun in the Championship and won't be of interest to PL clubs.

Apart from the other two relegated clubs, who in the Championship would have a better squad than us?

Crystal Palace announced plans to redevelop Selhurst Park, and were given planning permission 4 months later! 4 months for planning! Hardly a long time.

Have you decided to ignore extra corporate revenue, refreshment revenue, merchandise revenue, non football event revenue, sponsorship increase due to extra spaces etc etc?

Today isn't day one, this has been in the works for a long time and lots of groundwork already done. So in terms of time from today it is reduced compared to if today was day one of looking into this.

It won't be 3k

Which is why they have been working closely with the council planning department for a long time.

You keep overlooking the purpose of the expansion. The key reason is for new financhial rules in football. Breaking even isn't the key point... the key point to help with these rules is that higher turnover allows under the rules for bigger spending. Spending is restricted to a % of turnover.

It does not require the whole project along the riverside to be complete for Saints to start benefitting from it. A stadium expansion can be relatively quick.

See answer above

Not working with these players in the PL does not mean it wouldn't vs Championship teams. Our squad is packed full of top level Championship players who are in the gap between too good for one league but not good enough for the next league. If we go down with Martin we'd be big favourites for promotion. Especially given we'd be a year 1 parachute money team.

Not 20 years for an expansion of a stadium.

Nonsense. The new financial spending rules are based on spending a % of turnover. Increasing ticket sales increases revenue and increases turnover. Profit doesn't matter in that sense.