tisspahars

"Just know" we'll regret not putting it to bed in the 1st half was very popular last night....

All those posters who "just knew" that once Wolves got their first yesterday they would go on and win......do you suppose they remember that they "just knew" we wouldn't hold on to a single goal lead late on against Watford and Norwich; that once Grealish got one back we would collapse against Villa; that that skate Mason Mount was going to score at Stamford Bridge; that Harry Kane would get his obligatory goal or that Vardy or Maddison (probably both) would deny us late on at Leicester. Or do you think that maybe they are completely lacking in any self-awareness? Asking for a friend....

Am I right in thinking Bednarek has scored two goals for Saints, both in home games we have lost 3-2 having been 2-0 up?

20/1 on Betfair following the win at Leicester.

9/1 also the price on Betfair following the Tottenham win. Astonishing value really for a side without one player up to Premier League standard and a manager clearly out of his depth, who are likely to take Derby's record for the lowest points tally ever.

A shade above 6/1 post Chelsea - the biggest price we have been since mid-September.

Out to 4/1 following the win at Villa.

2/1 after the West Ham defeat.

Back in to 3/1 after the Newcastle game - interestingly Bournemouth are now shorter to go down than we are....

Prices still settling after the Norwich game, but looks like we'll be out to around 4/1.

So far so very good, however.......bearing in mind that if Norwich get the next goal this place will be completely convinced we are going to chuck it, you can lay Saints at 1/14 on Betfair currently!

Finally back at base having taken in my first game of the season on Saturday (you're all welcome) and the win sees us out to 5/2 to go down.

Out a fraction to 15/8 post Arsenal match.

Prices still settling down post Everton but looks like it will be around 7/4. So even now rated a fair bit more likely to stay up than not, which will utterly blow a fair few minds on here I would imagine.

No change at 9/4 post Man City - the vastly improved performance presumably balancing out the lack of points and victories for some of our rivals.

HT prices on Betfair.........4/9 Man City 10/3 Draw 7/1 Saints.

To follow up a point from the pre-match thread, City were 1/4 on the off at Betfair - wowsers....

Might take you a while, but absolutely - already been that much matched at around that price.

Although of course a professional would know they could have 1/8 on Betfair.......

No, we shouldn't. Betting exchange markets are incredibly accurate - check out some stats on the exchange SP's of horses v results as evidence. If the market has settled on 9/4 being the current price then you can rest assured that is fairly close to the likelihood. It may not fit in with the "We are so going down" narrative following Friday's humiliation, but there you are. We are in trouble, certainly, but the "It's over, nothing can save us" brigade are as wrong now as they were when they wrote it on the 2017 and 2018 versions of this thread.

Unsurprisingly considerably shorter to go down after last night's extraordinary events - dumbfoundingly remarkable to some of you I imagine, we are still considered hugely more likely to stay up than go down. 9/4 to be relegated.

Still around 4/1 - 9/2 following the point at Wolves.

Prices still settling after the Chelsea debacle but looks like we'll be around 9/2 which, given some of the comments on here some will find unfathomably big.

Despite losing at Spurs we are a bigger price than we were after Bournemouth - 11/2 currently.

Maybe have another read of what I've actually said, maybe another think about it too.