tisspahars

Surely the fans need to do their bit here - almost to a man they have said they don't want the board to cave in and definitely not to Liverpool and the board has held firm. If when he is integrated back in the crowd boos his every touch and makes his position untenable then what was it all for?

What were the odds on this thread going over an hour without a post today??

You probably should have set yourself up for life backing him to stay for the last few weeks then if it's always been so obvious to you.....

None - but that doesn't mean there isn't/hasn't been considerable uncertainty as proved by the fact yours was the 8647th post on the matter....

As discussed many times betting odds are largely irrelevant in these matters as it only takes a few tenners to shift the market hugely, HOWEVER.....things are different on Betfair and the fact that in the last few minutes somebody has put £500 up to back him to stay at odds on suggests they at least think they know (!) he is staying....

As it says....

Apologies for bring betting into this (as usual), but are those in the "Duh, it's so obvious he's going to Liverpool - he always was" camp aware they can back him at odds against to do just that?

Me for one....

Good example of "aftertiming" in today's game imo - "lovely to see such a confident one touch finish from Gabbi" seems to be the general feeling whereas if the keeper had shut his legs it would have been "an absolute sitter and he hits it STRAIGHT at the keeper - worrying!".

Not long now till the anyone but Puel brigade become anyone but Mope imo.....

If you want to be even handed about dealing in facts rather than speculation/opinions we don't know your first two points to be facts at all. It is what we have been told, but....

The second was a peach for sure......

No offence, but that first goal against Palace had nothing to do with MLT's talent and was 100% just a keeper howler....

Sadly (some would say tragically) that Echo piece is the biggest sign yet that he is going to Liverpool in this window imo.

Been heading that way, but Betfair market now says it definitively - it's Pellegrino.

A good example of how, if you know where to look, the betting markets are absolutely relevant (paying attention Pamplemousse? ) ....Ryan Giggs - plenty of paper talk, plenty of forum talk, 13/2 with Skybet....but I am about to put up £100 at 14/1 on Betfair and i'm as certain as I can be not a bean will be taken because the people that know, know there is just no way it is happening (and if anyone does take it, more fool them).

As I said earlier on the thread it is a question of knowing where to look and how to decipher it.

It's not "silly" it's an exchange not a traditional bookmakers - if there was only £4 available at that price and you took it of course it then moves to the next price available. If you want more at a bigger price you can request it and it may get matched. The market has not been up long so there is not much liquidity in it yet...

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/football/market/1.132180827

For those that believe sky sources count for nothing (definitely the case sometimes) and that layers on Betfair are irrelevant (not so much) you can now have 20/1 Tuchel....

As with anything like this (opinion polls for example) it is a question of knowing where to look and what to decipher. If you think that all of our recent appointments (Poch aside) weren't signposted in some way by the Betfair market then you are kidding yourself.

A very simplistic view.

Market seems to concur with matey from Sky - pennies available to back Tuchel available at 6/4 half an hour ago, chunks at 5/1 (and rising) now....

Guy from Sky tweeting Tuchel not interested.....

Market up on Betfair.....fairly thin at the moment with Tuchel and Nagelsmann the only two to see any money so far.