Give it to Ron

Someone will be championing Ian Baird next ;-)

Of course Frank that must be the biggest load of horsepoo you have ever posted. Why did Strachan feel the need to put that in his book he didnt need to pad it out. If there was a choice between believeing WGS who didnt need to write it or believe someone who spends his life apologising and feeling the need to defend Lowe then I know where I sit. WGS didnt want to do another Coventry and he knew the squad we had was poor and Lowes policy then inflated it to 41 quantity of quality that broke the wage budget not structure...brilliant businessman my arse

But no-one expected us to go mad and spend anywhere near that.....WGS wanted 11m to spend on Saha and Malbranque but Rupert felt it was wrong to give another club in th same division that much money as it strengthened them...ignoring the fact it would also strengthen us. We then sold Bridge etc and the rest is history. Had we of given WGS the money would he of stayed, would we of kicked on to the next level? No-one knows just like that nut job Dalek never knows whether his Messiah would of been any better here than he did elsewhere like Wolves. But one thing is certain what RL did since has been a catastrophe in alliance with many others but he started the ball rolling IMO.

Thanks Clapham for putting it in a way I can fathom...IT and computers I can handle but accountancy stumps me.

Not patronising at all and explained well ..sorry another question then...so as we have a number of high rollers such as Rasiak, John, Kelvin off the books soon and that leaving only mainly very low costing players such as those mentioned above we have a paltry cost for any purchaser?

Thanks...so McG would be as we owe Notts County?

Can someone help out with a question on this.....I seem to recall a few years ago when we spoke about reserve/academy grown players these do not appear on a balance sheet as assets? Does that mean therefore that Gillet Surman Lallana Lloyd Thomson Would not be included in GM value of £6,376K.

I thought it was for Glen C_ckerill .....only problem is he didnt join till 85 ;-)

I will take someone who has enough to see us solvent and with ambition and the right credentials...those being someone totally new to the club with no baggage. If its a multi billionaire then good we have struggled enough if its not then lets just hope its omeone that does far better than the last 5 years they wont have much to beat IMO.

There's that luvvie in you coming out again ;-)

When he has people with enough funds to buy us....before that he has to weedle out the tyrekickers, timewasters, wannabees and nutjobs. Rumour has it he is waiting on one consortium to prove itself...we have been here loads before especially with Fulthorpe. There then has to be further interviews and further negotiation and acceptance. If there is anyone left after that and to be honest I am totally bricking it that we wont find anyone I cant see that being before the last game of the season given the numebr of packs sent out.

In your opinion......for the record can you or Micky show me where anyone on this thread blamed Burley for Administration? I did for not getting us automatic promotion there is a massive difference. I agree its gone off at a tangent as the initial post was about the Administrator but FC decided to turn this into a slanging match again.

Come on Nick look at the squads available under Burley and since. That play off season should of been a shoe in automatic promotion with the players we had. But Burley made some of the weirdest tactical decisons I have ever seen, one game Watford? we had 6 players playing on their opposite natural flank. Saga on in injury time when we were drawing 0-0 at another game. To cap it off we let the most inexperienced player take the first penalty when everyone knows its vital to get off to a great start. We were on a downward spiral under Burley....would he of sanctioned the release of Rasiak and Skacel by Crouch..not bloody likely. A lot of managers had a lot to deal with under the recent boards tenure....I was watching Football Matters last night on Setanta and Berti Basset was saying he was not surprised Redkrapp ran back as fast as he could to Pompey given how bad SCW was. He reckoned that SCW was atrocious and a fish out of water here. Ok Bassett can be a plumb at times but he has a pretty decent managerial career and knew what was happening here.

I think the guy you are talking about is the minder and driver for the youth team. I have seen him many times at Staplewood. The guy who used to collect the balls at The Dell and lay out the kit was a guy called Barry Small.

Well the club was originally known as Southampton St Marys and its the same club now as was called then so IMO you are totally wrong.

I would just love it...if for once we had a manager and board that sanctioned moves for players that suit the division we play in. No Gasmi, Schneiderling, Smith namby pamby style we need good solid honest giant centre halves, a mobile kicker in midfield, pacey wingers and a lump up front for Paterson and McGoldrick to feed off. We have no pace or aggression in our first or reserve teams that will get us up. I have wanted us to buy someone like Andy Bishop from Bury for a couple of years instead of the likes of the above mentioned players. He cannot be on big wages or cost a lot and run us ragged the other year at SMS.

Survival on the pitch or boardroom and shareholding?

Hows your conscience Charlie http://www.clubfanzine.com/southampton/v2.showNews.php?id=19165 Having spent a bloody fortune this year watching complete wasters both on the pitch and off it mine is great and I dont need someone telling me otherwise. I did not contribute but having bought 2 ST's, shirts, beer, food , occasional programmes at home game this year I dont feel obliged to and coming from the Saints Trust that have hidden for most of the season and allied to to the main problems feel its a bit rich.

We would also need a quick wide man and wide mid fielders...which when you look at our side yesterday the only one with pace is Bradley who can't finish his dinner! Lloyd, Skacel, Surman, Lallana, Wotton, Euell and to some extent McGoldrick are all one pace and cannot burst past defenders that has been our problem this season and only McLaggon briefly showed the way until getting injured. I never count Dyer because the programme sellers took more of a battering than defenders. As I said great pundit not so good manager.

Agreed Nick..we have had enough of the amateurs giving it a go like Wigley, Gray, Poortvliet, Dodd and that is one of the reasons we are in the mess we are. Armstrong is a very good pundit and knows the game well..that does not make him a good manager. I was listening to him on the way home and he was calling it right IMO especially when they had the temp goalie....why were we taking outswinging corners? It should of been Surman or Skacel putting it under his chin with Size all over him. Lets get the club saved first then decide if Wotte stays or not, personally we need someone that has experience of the Leagues we are going to play in not where we want to get to. Lets get a manager that can buy/loan in players that suit the division not namby pamby ones like Smith, Gasmi, Schneiderling. Boothroyd and Pardew know these leagues well whether we can afford them or even Widdrington(no idea whwere this comes from) is still to be decided.

I had a chat with John Salako in the beer queue yesterday...nice bloke and we got chatting about our problems and if I thought we would survive etc. I mentioned the council rumours about buying the stadium and leasing it back but he said he was chatting to Bournemouth guys the other week and they thought thats what started their problems selling the ground to a developer? Personally I think its a great option for the city and club as where else in this city do we have a venbue that can hold concerts, religious festivals( I remember the JW used to hire out the Dell), meetings etc we could even have a temporary ice rink at certain times of the year. I didnt realise he was at Palace for as long as 12 years...he had just interviewed Warnock and Wotte and realised how stressful management was !

It was great getting 3 points but Palace were woeful and disinterested for most of the game. BWP battled really well and highlighted how our lack of pace in other members of the team mean we are limited in attacking options. Shame his finishing is so poor. I was shocked at taking Euell off as I would of put Saga on as well as we needed the 3 points but we hung on at the end. Could be too little too late but at least we showed some fight today for a change. Perry, Size, Skacel and Lloyd did well today and 3 points at Wednesday next week just may rekindle some more belief. Lallana was far better today and about time as he has contributed nothing since Christmas. MOM the crowd who were superb.