Give it to Ron

But this in a nutshell is exactly where Lowes problem is..he buys quantity rather than quality - this was exactly what he did after the cup final we had 42 players in the squad! The club shop hardly had enough space for for the printing. Instead of recruiting decent players (Malbranque)we went along the Jelle Van Damme, Jacobbsen, Nillson, Neil McCann route that saw us fail and in the ****e we are in now. You also left Forecast out of the list but there are reasons why he was signed - yep to take over from our regular player of the month. As a Lowe apologist can you tell me why he had to come back in person when he knew the unrest he would cause - is that good business sense to further alienate your customer base? Why did he not put in someone to oversee things and just report to him in the background and work with all the parties to get this club back on track? We all know the answer to that really and how anyone can continue to support him baffles me when everything he now touches turns to poop like a Midas in reverse.

How? when most of the first team is based on academy players? Where do we get the money to pay agent/loans fees even freebies come at a price.

Yep understand that but given the circumstances he is expected to play in that he cares about consequences anymore?

Your boss comes to you and says your not wanted anymore go find another job - your too old and all we want is YTS and Graduates. You get offered another job on half the salary but thats not what you really want. Then it turns out all the YTS and graduates can't do your job as well as you . So they ask you to do the tasks again. You do a good job for months then the same happens - are you saying you would keep quiet?

It was not his fault he was hyped up to be the Messiah - yes at times he looks unfit but un-motivated then you havn't been anywhere St Marys in the last 17 games!

So who would get the lid off your sauce bottles?

Less the money still owed to Spurs for others as well......less the 20% sell on clause....so the profit will be ?

Its true mate although I won't say who but he wanted to play at that time but was told he wasn't wanted anymore - how is that for motivation?

To get them out of the club....as told to me by one of the senior players!

Plus agent and normally a loan fee to the club not that it matters in this case.

Quite simply AGENTS they tip off/lie/cheat/let slip details to newspapers to get clubs in bidding wars to up the price or wages - which when it comes to us is a bloody joke isn't it!

So winning 1 game at home playing the same formation when it clearly doesnt work is OK with you? Bringing on 5ft 4 midgets in the last 10 minutes against a team hoof balling it forward is Ok? Keeping the same formation when 0-0 and not looking like scoring a goal in weeks is fine with you and not making a sub? Leaving struggling players on when clearly knackered and leaving experienced pros on the bench is fine and waiting until the other team equalises is good for you? There is only one person talking brainless drivel here.

From results we don't have the personnel or manager for plan A or B

You ignored my post last night and probably will again but here goes - in the last 10 years can you remind me of what was long term under loveable old rosey cheeks? How the hell can you talk about stability with his record? None of it was his fault I suppose in which case he has been bloody unlucky to have 10 walk out on him for spiritual homes. I call for management change when I see a bloke drowning and a fish out of water or one like Burley who had no interest in being here. None so blind.

The same people that didnt want Coleman and Warnock probably and look where they are now.

Saw him 3 or 4 times and never impressed me at all. In one reserve game he was abysmal. No touch, poor in the air, lack of awareness around him - going for headers that others were in far better positions to make and a lack of presence up front at all. Just my opinion in those 3 or 4 games mind.

That is the main issue I have with JP - even Sundance in a post last week finally saw the light. We do have some good players and with a bit of tactical nous we would of won more than 1 game at home this season and not in the poop we are in now. SB thought bringing in someone like Ian Dowie for a while may help - certainly Gorre hasn't been going on recent matches.

Not go for ridiculous Dutch experiments that havn't worked anywhere else in English football. Especially in a season when it was known nearly all the experience players would go - in anyones sane mind then you would not have an inexperinced coach/manager setup to go with inexperienced players. I will not be renewing my 2 for the simple fact I cannot justify £500 watching the team when I can go and watch the same players for free at Staplewood.

Do loanees have medicals? surely if they are not fit they go back to loan club. Hope you are right though as exactly what we need.

The thing is Tim I fail to see where JP is a good coach, motivator, tactician or have any common sense in this team. I don't want to keep on about Smith but he is a prime example, you coach a team and so did I so what is one of the first things you teach a winger? Knock the ball past the defender as soon as you can and get to the byeline - not once has he managed that. Change wings to confuse the defender - swap about and even though you are left footed you put over a cross with your right foot that way the defenders can't guess easily that you will turn on your good foot each time. Not once have I seen him do that or be encouraged to do that - its not totally his fault but a good coach would encourage that wouldn't he?

Probably the best post on here today.

Sorry are you saying od rosey cheeks brings stability, long term and doesn't change managers - genuine question as am still quite angry at how bad we were today and not quite getting this.

Because there are better options apparently you must of seen them today - thats why we let Dyer go as well ;-).

Bye you won't be missed especially when you post things that aren't there you gormless dickweed! Where the **** did I say he is to blame for the chairman and no money? The problem does not just lie with the chairman but as I have continually posted for the last 6/7 home games its the manager that is out of his depth picking Smith and putting him on the right. Still you have gone now to another site thank **** so wont read this.

and some of you are so happy to accept any mediocrity thats thrown at you and toe the party line and accept the bullshine the OS gives you. Some of us can actually see that he is in the side for one reason only - he is cheap. One good run a game against a side playing at half pace is not going to get us goals or create anything. A left footer on the right is so easy for a defender. Surman Morgan Gillet BWP would of been worth a go.