The Kraken

My take on it would be that the current manager is not using one of our highest paid (and highest valued) players against the best sides, when clearly our best players are needed to step up their games. And lets not forget that Ramirez is a player that MP didn't sign himself. Our top players really should be getting games in "a game like this"; that he wasn't used at all today says one thing; that he hasn't been used from the start even against the lower ranked sides is more cause for question. It's no use for a club like us to have such a valuable asset sat on the bench. And if MP feels that he could use that sort of spend to much better effect I have little doubt that he'll be pressing the club to act. Don't get me wrong, I think having Ramirez from the bench is a great option. Its just whether that option is as good as reinvesting the money in another player who MP will use a lot more. A bit of a simplistic comparison, but if Gaston's wage rumours are anywhere near accurate I'd suggest we shouldn't be spending that on someone who doesn't make the first team so often.

I think its a fair comment. He's £12M worth of talent sitting on the bench more than he is playing. For his own development as a player he needs to be playing, and playing in the big games. At the moment he's not even close to a starting spot. Plus, can SFC really afford to have such a player on the wage bill and not contributing in the longer term? Far better to ship him out and have the manager bring in a player he will actually use.

He's always been an accident waiting to happen. His antics at Swindon were brushed over because they were lower league, and to be fair he had some success overall, but some of his antics down there were disgraceful really. In the PL his madness will get continually highlighted; quite what the hell he was thinking today though. Can't see him lasting much longer.

Chelsea have just scored

Concerns about not scoring enough goals are valid in general, but not for today's performance. 1-0 away at the league leaders is brilliant in anyone's book. In fact any away 1-0 victory is superb for us. We do need to score more at home, but that's for another day.

From a Liverpool fan on F365 forum:

From BBC website.

Because we're Saints. It's always been this way.

:lol:

He's dreamy. He's also in mt fantasy league team. Double whoop.

Great performance and result. Saints

Shaw and Lovren in my fantasy league team

Set piece Saints

There's definitely a London office that a couple of the sales/sponsorship team work out of.

Welcome BG_Saint. You sound like a voice of reason. Rare in these parts.

Me too Deano :lol::lol: Isn't it hilarious :lol:111!!!.!!!!1111!! Deano!!!!

Did norwaysaint actually read any of the embarrassed people's responses where they actually said it was press spin? More "norwaysaint moaning about other posters" once again.

I do too. Funnily enough I was walking to the ground last week and a couple of chaps behind me were discussing the fact that we're in the news a lot talking about Champions League this and that. One of them said "I know, embarrassing isn't it?". I raised a smile. Good job there weren't any other m-boarders around him to chastise him for being embarrassed. To be fair, once again the press are putting their spin on what was actually asked and responded to. But its the constant guff coming out from the club that means CL will always be the question, and always the resulting headline.

*wipes nostalgic tear from eye*

I'm still at a loss as to how you can have a flaw in an opinion of your own. There's no right or wrong, as its an opinion. A bit like if I asked you "do you prefer the sash kit to the Rank Xerox kit". If you said "my favourite Saints kit is the sash kit", it would be a bit daft to respond "the flaw in your argument is that the Rank Xerox kit was more popular in an online poll". Jesus, I just bored myself typing that out. I'd argue that we should move on. Arguably.

Pretty much that. Especially as I have 2 Saints defenders in my Fantasy League team.

Thanks bud. Now I realise its an argument simply to present one's point of view. "I'd argue that a bacon sandwich is my favourite breakfast." I'd argue it definitely is. Every day is a school day. Lovely.

Its not even a debate though, is it? Alpine wondered "how many of us are really, really deep-down happier than at this time 2 years ago." That's not a debate; that's just asking if there are some that feel that way. Clearly Alpine does, and I'd say I do, plus a few others I've seen express the same sentiments. There's no argument or debate whatsoever to be had; you either prefer football then, or you don't.

Why is it an "argument" to suggest that some people think differently to others? There's no correct answer to what Alpine asks, just contrasting opinions. Being in the top division is a good thing, being able to attract decent players is great, and toppling the best sides in England (and Europe tbf) is a wonderful feeling. That said, I still look back extremely fondly on our days in the Championship. Even the season after the playoffs when we really struggled; staying up against Sheff Utd on the final day remains my favourite day ever at St. Mary's. The natural, popular answer on here is that the PL is the be all and end all. Fair enough, its a sensible supposition. But equally there does exist a minority (of which I'm in) who can enjoy the spoils of the top league but actually preferred it more in the Championship.

Was always going to happen, no surprise at all unfortunately. Australia and the other bid nations will sue and FIFA will use some of their filthy money to grease the wheels.