The Kraken

Its not all that realistic if we get nothing from our games against Sunderland and Spurs.

If the ref had blown up he'd have been accused of not letting play flow and seeing if the advantage could be played. Ramirez was still ahead of the player(s) pulling him back and still trying to push forward, the ref was absolutely entitled to see how it panned out and call play back if necessary. I'd have been a bit annoyed had he not done that as Ramirez was clearly still trying to make the most of the break rather than making a meal of being pulled back. The mistake made was that the ref didn't go back to the original foul for the proceeding free kick, he instead just punished the elbow.

Yes. We're safe.

Just home fans getting on his back a bit for a couple of minor decisions. By all accounts spot on for the sendings off, I only really saw Ramirez's clearly but it was utterly blatant and stupid. I still get p*ssed off with the bloody linesmen who are 5 yards away from a throw in decision yet utterly bottle it and look to the ref to make the decision, who is further away and worse-sighted. Happened a few times today, rubbish.

"Player after player after player"?? Who else aside from Hooiveld and Fox is attracting masses of comments that they need to be shipped out?

Amen to that. WBA are now 9 points (plus a game in hand) ahead of us. It shows how far we have to go just to get to 8th place, never mind all this heady talk of a European place. We were outplayed in every single department today, and as sh*t as we were WBA were thoroughly excellent and we had absolutely nothing to combat them.

Morgan a bit too young. Lambert for me; would be Fonte if he was first choice. Lallana is (Ramirez aside) the very last person I'd choose as skipper.

Somewhat Saints related as Claus Lundekvam is featured. Norway's ex players get together for a 5 a side kick about, fitted with electric shock dog collars on their legs. Be sure to turn the subtitles on.

I swear some people must watch a different game to me. Clyne was not at his best but he was one of two or three Saints players who could say they weren't terrible. Almost scored too, but for the woodwork. Fox was in his own special category of sh*tness today, utterly atrocious.

Entirely true. And perhaps a little reminder of how far we have to go yet. West Brom will probably finish no higher than 8th but their performances against us this season have been miles above our own level. Today they were better in every single department, very impressed with them.

I thought maybe. But MP made speicific mention to him almost getting sent off for two yellows in the first half, so it may have been tactical. Didn't think Cork was playing any worse than anyone else out there; saw Ramirez doing warm ups at half time so knew he was coming on but thought it would be for the thoroughly lacklustre Lallana. Very surprised to see Cork had made way.

Apparently. Although don't question it too much on here; despite him playing for his country its unrealistic to expect him to come in and play for us this season. Next season is what its all about. I guess he must be sitting on the bench to gain some experience or something.

Hooiveld was especially poor today. Fox, well the best thing he did was get sent off. Forren must really be out of shape if he can't get a game at the moment.

Lallana was massively poor today. Again. And Lambert's form has totally dropped off. Lukaku showed today what a top class PL striker looks like.

That's the logical move; a left footed Branca Ivanovic. Thing is, those types of player are a bit thin on the ground.

Why not? We could easily have signed Buttner in the summer for £3M. We could easily sign someone else for a similar amount. Other clubs do it, not sure why its so hard for us. Its not as if we haven't bought players this term who have played second fidlle to others.

No. He really isn't. In fact its plain daft to come out with nonsense such as that. He predominantly did well in the championship but he's clearly not cut out for the Premier League. If Buttner was pretty close to coming to us for £3M then I'm sure we can find someone else suitable for that price who will be a significant step up.

Poor game from Fox today. I couldn't see the tackle very well but it sounds like it was justified, I'll wait and see on MOTD later (if I bother watching). WBA clearly did their homework and targetted Fox, he plainly wasn't up to it today.

Would you prefer good threads on here and Saints to draw today, or bad threads on here and Saints to win?

Nor Everton. They didn't even qualify for the league stages, they got knocked out in the premilinary rounds.

Next year's list is going to be obscene in comparison. More for the team that finishes in 20th place than Man City earned when they won the title last year.

MLG getting thoroughly rinsed here. :lol:

UEFA cup.

Not that we'll actually know though.... But agreed, I get the feeling that crowds next season could be akin to those in 2003/04. A season of that and a bigger stadium becomes a more realistic prospect. Heady days .