The Kraken

Well there we go. At least we know how boring we both are now with it.

TDD, your never ending anti-Gazza crusade is turning you into a sh*t version of Alpine.

Just going by the MOTD commentary; all of them referred to Adkins' comments but that he had nothing to complain about. I thought it was a foul, interpretation is difficult these days, getting the ball first doesn't necessarily mean it isnt a foul.

You silly boy.

Well Clattenburg got absolute dogs abuse for giving us nothing throughout the Norwich game; huge ironic cheers when he finally did. I think NA also complained about the Clyne tackle/foul that led to Snodgrass's goal, but replays showed that was fine (as was Lambert's goal despite Hughton whining it was handball).

When he says "squad" does he mean the 17, or just the SFC squad in general? I can only pray that he means Forte is in the general squad and won't be involved on matchday. Forte's loan at Crawley was for 3 months and expired on 17th November, he hasn't played for them since. Oh God; he's going to be in the matchday squad, isn't he?!

Is this also the one that Romsey Stu went for?

At least two? Oooh, names, this is interesting!

Is this the case? My understanding is that he cannot stand the test until he is put forward as the preferred creditor by PKF. Portpin went through some initial discussions with the FL regarding the test; unless I'm missing something I don't think they actually failed the test, they just hadn't provided enough responses to the FL's direct questioning. No idea myself; the skates seem convinced that the Chinster has failed but I've seen nothing to confirm that either way.

Hopefully his first action will be saying to Cortese: "You know what; we're really missing a trick not engaging properly with the local media. Let's sort that out, shall we?". Somehow I think that is rather unlikely, though.

Dear Lord. Is this really your way of saying I'm wrong?! Swansea are asking for planning permission. Next year. A bit like Reading did years ago. A bit like I have previously suggested we might like to do too. And "my plan" is for Saints. Not Swansea. The two are separate cases, you see.

A rather pertinent part of the article.... The stadium's current capacity is around 20,500, but the high-flying club is missing out on match-day revenue due to the demand to see them live. "We can do the east (stand) first probably if we want to, then decide on doing one of the other two or both at the same time," said Mr Jenkins. "But as we all know in football we don't know what's round the corner, so we have got be careful and make sure we do everything within what we can afford.

Looks like another 500 or so tickets have gone on sale in the home end in block 43.

Jesus. Thanks for going to that trouble.

There's plenty of candidates for Mr. Grumpy, that's for sure.

Strong seems like an arrogant bastard. Tickle is a good lad, I always quite liked Messy too.

I'm not even sure of the legalese terms; I just refer to it as that as everyone knows what you mean. And I also know that its not exactly beyond all means possible to have those retsrictions lifted, should one party be so disposed.

And you've got to wonder if he thinks its worth the effort any more. Even if his own fag packet maths are correct, the valuation of Fratton is nowhere near what he claims he is owed. £6M or £7M at an absolute push for that land, probably less (and that's not taking into account the covenant, which he has to successfully fight in order to get any more than the £2.75M on offer). He's absolutely hated down there, who would want to stay around with a few hundred of their rabidly ugly mob sharpening their pitchforks. I think he's tried to delay it all and derail the PDT bid as much as he can, but will come to some form of agreement before it gets into court and leave with his £2.75M plus whatever he gets from the CVA, and be done with it. Surely nothing else will keep him around any longer.

Chainrai will have dropped a massive ricket if things don't go his way in court. That said, I think the PDT will get their way on this one; Chinny has played this one extremely poorly. From what I hear a request for adjournment was denied and Portpin have now got an independent valuer to assess the Fratton site. Half of me would be surprsied if this even reaches court; I think Chainrai has completely f*cked himself here.

I can't believe you've argued with me all these years over a difference of 2,500 in proposed capacity. I feel cheated.

So 42,500 then??!!

They're irrelevant. Stoneham has been and gone. 25K would have been too small, which means that the estimates for that size of stadium requried were wrong at the time. I don't see how its valid. But like I say that's irrelevant now.

Yes. A long term desire, an ambition. It may well be scaled down from that. He also said a 5 year plan, which changed. He also said many other things, which have changed, some for the good some for the bad. You simply can't take a throwaway comment such as that as plain fact that we are 100% definitely going to do it. But you didn't answer the question; what are you suggesting the club should do? I'll lead off with my suggestion if its easier. I suggest the club monitor attendances for at least 2-3 years. If there is overwhelming evidence that a considerably bigger stadium can be filled (using the current financial model) and its financially viable to do so, we should do it. if there isn't that evidence, we should keep monitoring the situation and take a decision on whether to do it after each subsequent season. Given that Cortese once said something about a desire to be housed in a 50k stadium; are you saying that we should now build one? That's what it seems like. Happy to hear a clarification.

MLG; just so we can cut through a lot of this. As opposed to waiting for 2, 3 seasons before deciding what capacity stadium we should/should not increase to. What are you suggesting the club should do? Genuinely. I'm not sure I understand what point you're trying to make, or what you're suggesting the club should do (other than "wait and see", which is what I and others are suggesting).

What on earth? I'm not trying to imply that at all. I've not even mentioned the Dell. I think you must be very confused.