The Kraken

I actually do think we'll sign another keeper; but I imagine it will be someone young (18, 19 20), cheap, not yet ready for the first team but with a bit of promise who can play in the development squad for a year or two before potentially coming through to the first team or as second choice. A bit like Forecast was supposed to turn out. I certainly don't think we'll be getting 2 extra keepers who can all push for the first team though.

You think we got Jay Rodriguez for £3M up front? Ok then. I'd suggest that's highly unlikely.

I did. And I still think you're wrong when you stated that "we have the advantage". I can think of many other PL Cat 1 clubs who I consider would have the advantage over us.

I did read it. I just disagreed with it. Slight difference.

I'll be honest, I got lost in the irony of him accusing someone else of being tiresome.

Really? There were plenty on this forum suggesting that, in the case of Rob Green, his call up for England was pretty much irrelevant.

Ah ok, being only 3 or 4 hours from Plymouth, rather than 4 or 5 will be a big advantage. Got ya.

The new rules also now allow every single other club with Cat 1 status to scout there too though, don't they?

Well of course it is. No-one is surely arguing against that are they? It's only really today come out on this message board just how many clubs are likely to be Cat 1, so its natural to explore the exact benefits of what Cat 1 will bring over other Cat 1 clubs, what benefits there are over non Cat 1 sides, and what effect the changes will have on us (given that larger clubs can now fully scout in localised areas where we have previously been the biggest fish).

They both moved to us when they were 16, didn't they? How is this relevant to your point about Plymouth not being able to sign them until 12?

The 90 minute thing is beneficial in some respects; but not so much in others at it opens up the same possibilities for every single other club with Cat 1 (which is apparently now going to be a significant number of clubs). You could say it weakens us, in that all Cat 1 clubs outside 90 minutes can now poach the area for all the talent we've previously had a bit of an advantage to sourcing. Our main rivals will be PL clubs, so I fail to see what immediate edge we will have over those with Cat 1 (which it appears will now be the vast majority of them).

Szczesny was on loan at Brenford from Arsenal in the first place, so not quite the same thing.

Big rivals then. Thanks. This clearly gives us a massive advantage over those clubs compared to what we had before, when you put it like that.

What a rotter.

No, which ones of our RIVAL clubs. I don't think anyone in League 2 is going to be our rivals.

How many? And which ones?

Yeah, that's got nothing to do with my original point either. In any case, have fun, I'm off down the pub to watch Spain play Portugal.

I think you are getting throughly confused by what I was inferring in the first place, so we're best off moving on. The Cat 1 status will be a great thing for us; as it will for the other 19 or so clubs who are in line for it should they be successful.

I might be being a bit thick; but is the concept of "English pride" based on the fact that one kit is red and one is white?

I'm not debating that's what you said, I think you're getting a bit confused. You said in 2011 that we were one of only three in line to get Cat A status. Now it is announced that there will likely be many more than 3 clubs with Cat A status. You can argue it if you like but you'll be incorrect. Going from the notion of having 3 clubs (with the potential for more) with Cat A, to up to 20 clubs being awarded it, is clearly a dilution of the previous inferred "exclusivity" of Cat A.

I think it'll look decent with the whole kit, I wouldn't mind those socks at all (especially if we don't get stripes on the shirt). Just imagine; if we got similar style socks in red and white we'd look like a barber's post. What's not to like about that.....

I actually quite like that look

Well that's clearly not the point I was making is it? I said there was a previous rhetoric that we were one of three clubs in line for Cat A status. You said that, back whenever. Now, the reality is that there will be lots more clubs than 3 with Cat A status. Yes, it will benefit us. Yes, it's great to have. But are you saying that I'm incorrect in stating the previous rhetoric of "we're one of only 3 clubs in line to get Cat a" has since been diluted?

You made reference to it on the previous page.

Like a league table of universities? Interesting.....