angelman

Red Lion at Boldre is quite a nice pub. Got a big field attached to the beer garden that they can go run about in. They do say on their www that it is mainly for adults, but I took my kids there for lunch and it was fine. Good beer on tap. Food wasn't bad either http://www.theredlionboldre.co.uk/node/1

Ah - yes. I think you are probably correct.

I sort of see where AA is coming from. Why did HMRC wait the full 28 days? Admittedly AA tried to shaft them, so a little shafting back, but as he says it is brinkmanship. But I do love AA's opinion of HMRC - he seems to think that they should just go away and fall into line. If he was working on the other side of the fence, he would realise that it really isn't about Pooey, it's about the Football Creditors Rule. As the SA Law article states, it does break the fundamental rules where all creditors are treated equally. Taking a step back and being objective, I really do side with HMRC. I know why the rule came about, in order to stop a dominoes effect. But maybe selling clubs should ensure that the money is safe and if they take risks selling to dodgy clubs, then they should suffer the consequences like everyone else.

Ah Kanu and his verbal contact extension. AA seems a bit surprised by this. I guess that if he has he would be entitled to huge wages which the fish can't afford. But they seem to want him but on their terms.

Maybe the CVA was supposed to fail. Well if they got away with 20p they would have followed a different tack, but no CVA, no buyer, liquidation, Poopey gets flushed away never to be seen again, Chainrape gets Fratton without any tenants. Much more convenient to take vacant possession. He avoids the blame for everything going tits up (HMRC, AA, Storrie, Gayboys, the Arabs etc can take that) and carries on his merry way and redevelops. As Benjii asks, what was his real motivation. I presume to have amassed that much money (I presume he has) then he is no fool and knows exactly what he is doing.

Chainrai seems to have 2 choices: 1) Put his hand in his pocket and run the club which would include sorting out HMRC and court etc. {Unlikely IMO} 2) Cut his losses and hop on a plane back to Hong Kong If he goes back to HK and Pooey disappear, I presume that he then reappears as the owner of the land. In some ways I feel sorry for those fishy supporters, as Chainrai hasn't been, umm, a knight in shining armour.

If they do get -17 or -20, what are the odds that they won't break even next season?

Ummm. Let's not go overboard. While HMRC have done well for our fishy "friends", they are still the tax man.

The crowd, scattered throughout the Q’s lower bowl, was substantially less than the “at least 25,000” that promoter Anthony Fernandez predicted in a July 3 article in the Union-Tribune. Oh dear. Looks like the promoter, who is supposedly paying for Pooey to travel the USA, might have budgeted a little over optimistically. Maybe a PL team might have got 25k but who on earth would want to watch some ****-poor team with hardly any professionals playing? If I was the promoter, I would cut my losses now and send Pooey back home ASAP.

much more interesting looking at the dolly birds.

Oh I don't think that the FL will put up with AA/PFC's bull's hit. The PL had to try and shift it off their books and onto the FL's as the PL is, as we all know, the richest league in the world, with the best teams, most exciting football etc blah blah blah. The FL is a lot more realistic and actually understands that it's members have a pretty tough time of things, but they also [as we all know] don't like clubs who bend the rules. So basically the PL was happy to bend this and that so as to avoid having to confront the problem too much, but now that the FL are in charge they can do things properly.

I see that we are building up to a major campaign of "aren't we hard done by" and I would prefer them just to liquidate rather than try and play the sympathy card. It seems that AA and BC have tried to pull a fast one and it just doesn't, at this stage, seem to be going to work. I am not sure what the FL can do if Poopey do flog all their players and they end up not being able to field a team of 11 players? Suppose that the choices are lift the embargo (and pay the players with what??) or kick them from the league. I can also see a lot of mysterious training injuries happening to make sure that they have low numbers fit. As an aside, does anyone know whether the players' wages are being paid on time?

pepipoo.com should be able to give you some advice. Basically I think that you have to take them to small claims court to try and get your money back.

Put it this way, if HMRC don't appeal then they will have to answer questions, most probably from the Tax Payer's Alliance or some such body, as to why they have p***ed away the chance of not trying to claim the revenue that is due.

Ummm....I think the tax man comes knocking pretty damn quickly when you miss your VAT payments. Spinning them a yarn to buy yourself more time, full of empty promises, is not HMRC's fault. Maybe they should have pushed for liquidation earlier, but the blue few would have cried about that even more loudly saying how unfair it was that HMRC didn't give them a chance. As it is, debts that a company amasses isn't, well at least the last time I looked, the responsibility of the tax man.

Does anyone know what HMRC would have settled for, or will they only be {correctly} happy with 100%? Obviously 20p was never going to be OK, especially as it was for the benefit of Chainrai, but if the original offer had been 50-70% would HMRC have settled for that? I presume that they do only want 100% because of the challenge to the Football Creditors rule, but I am sure that some realism would have crept in if the CVA offer was more realistic.

awful things. one of the things that I missed in the WC was the expectant roar of the crowd as it was drowned out by the bloody drone from the vuvus.

Fair enough having problems with the US, but the bit below that I have highlighted I think over-rides petty arguments. ===== BERN, Switzerland (AP) -- The Swiss government declared renowned film director Roman Polanski a free man on Monday after rejecting a U.S. request to extradite him on a charge of having sex in 1977 with a 13-year-old girl. ===== As someone with a daughter (admittedly younger than 13) I would definitely want justice to be served. Paying off the victim shouldn't make a difference (and it hasn't in this case) and I hope that he does get shipped back to face the music.

They can't afford Utaka or James. When Utaka came out all defensive over his reported £80k per week, he said that it was a third of this, so probably a third and round up to £30k a week which is still £1.5m a year. James was on what, £40k a week (£2m a year) and probably could get similar to that in the PL. So keeping those two alone would be £3.5m a year. Squad looks a little, ummmm, thin.

agree, the refs should do what they do in rugby and call over the captain (or rather both of them) and give them a stern talking to. The game was poor, but I can't see how Webb can get the blame for ruining it. What would have been worse, what happened last night, or two or 3 sent off in the first half. If that had happened, the whinging that would be going on today would be even more. As usual FIFA haven't come out and backed up their official. There are a few mistakes in every game, and I don't think that the Dutch can blame the goal on not being given a corner. That was 100 yards away and there were 8 or 9 players between the Spanish and the goal. So that is a bit spurious.

maybe it's a Kent thing

Torres walking? This isn't the first time his Achilles has gone, and I wonder whether he will ever get it mended properly. Not sure anyone will pay top dollar and take the risk, it would be somewhat foolish. As it is, he will be off games for, what, 2 or 3 months, and I can't see anyone buying him until January at the earliest. Therefore L'pool don't get a big transfer fee and can't pay stupid money for Boateng.

Lot of people seem to be attacking the Mail. Would point out that it is also in the Telegraph. So 2 right wing papers - must be a Nazi conspiracy. Never fear though as I am sure the right wing council in Kensington will sort this out on Monday.

I am getting confused. Didn't Android say he wasn't going for less than £1m (€1.2m)?

How long is Chainrai going to hang around for if the bills just get bigger? At some stage he surely must think that it would be better to cut and run rather than throw good money after bad. If as a previous post says that Poopey will be at least £1m a month short a month on wages alone, then will Chainrai he prepared to pay it? To him it's some you win and some you lose. No doubt he will be able to offset his losses as well. Personally I think that if HMRC contest the CVA and it gets turned down, I can see Chainrai cutting his losses.