Whitey Grandad

I noticed in the Football League rules that a club that is relegated from The Championship will receive parachute payments. Does anybody know the amount?

Some of us? Is there anybody here who is not affected in the slightest by even the smallest, niggling, uneasy scintilla of doubt?

Yes, that is an overall figure which may have been boosted by those that ended up there without too much stress and may have been reduced by those who have fallen back at the last. Without more details as Patrick Moore might say, "we just don't know".

Is this new?? I don't think away goals count in the playoffs. They certainly didn't at Pride Park.

Sure, why not? You're just jealous. Are you happy that Tony Blair, to take just one example, has got filthy rich whilst screwing over the rest of us?

The amount of land per person is much higher there.

Not exactly pantomime. I have relatives who lived in the country and suffered such behaviour in the early part of the last century. And for the record, take away everything from what you call the rich and it would make very little difference to the tax burden. What's worse, some people having a lot of wealth, or lots of people living off the state all their lives?

Opens midnight of the last game of the season according to the Football League's own rulebookand the Premier League is the same, so who do you choose to believe? Please don't ask me what happens to teams in the playoffs. Don't forget that other countries have different start dates for the window.

9 times out of 24 in the Championship (or its equivalent). There was some discussion on this on another thread. 3 out of 8 or 37.5%. But that is an overall figure that does not take into account the psychological effect of leading all season and falling back at the last hurdle.

Nutshell.

Denmark is completely different to England. The population density is mucvh lower than here for a start.

The state needs to find ways of reducing expenditure rather than dreaming up yet more ways of stealing our money from us. It's no different from the robber barons going to the peasants' cottages and taking anything they fancied.

That would be extreme in the least. The problem with inheritance planning and saving for your old age is that you don't know when you are going to die. What would be the point of working that bit extra if the state could pull the rug out from under your feet at any time. What's comforting is the thought that if you do have to leave this life early your children will have the benefit of your hard work. Under your scheme nobody would ever bother to lift a finger if they thought that it could all be taken away at a moment's notice. What the state needs to do is reduce its spending to half what it is at the mmoment and cut overall taxes to around 20 to 25% and then the economy (that's you and me) can flourish without this millstone round our necks that's draging us under, to mix my metaphors.

If that were true the earth would have gone to some extreme and stuck there sometime in the last 4 billion years. There have been several extended periods when we have been an icy lump.

And the time lags are counted in centuries rather than decades. Add to that the efffects of la Niña/El Niño, the 50-year Atlantic Hurricane cycle and all the other climatic oscillations and it's a right mess to unravel.

Wasn't Matt's testimonial supposed to have been a record, what with no segregation and everything? How was the England Macedonia match?

Definitely head to head if you believe the Football League's own rules.

Hosepipe ban, innit?

A good point Minty, but we are still no nearer knowing how much effect all this is going to have and even whether or not it is beneficial. We are 'overdue' an ice age, or so some scientists have been saying for as long as I can remember.

Football League Rule 40.6.2 (a) http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20110629/section-6-players_2293633_2125731 The transfer window opens at midnight on the last day of the season and closes midnight 31st August.

Thanks. I was of course talking about teams that are aiming for second and end up in third . And I was including the other two divisions. That's a 37.5% success rate, better than 25% but not much better than 1 in 3.

Nobody, not even I, will dispute that. It's the contribution from man-made gases that is in question.

That's exactly what I was saying! Once you've earnt it it belongs to you and your children and their children, not the state, not society, no-one else. What you suggest is theft, nothing less. We do not live in a communist state, we are not economic slave units. As for entrepreneurs, even 40% is pernicious, and you haven't included National Insurance, either employee's or employers'.

That's my concern. If by some fluke we don't go up I cannot see us doing this well next season.

I think that Phil has confused Reading's fixture with West Ham's.