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It was a clear shove, but the replay showed his fall was overly-dramatic and not proportionate to the force of the push. I think that's probably why it wasn't given.

Yes, Labour still has questions to answer. But if you're so determined to stamp antisemitism out of British politics then why have you so far remained completely silent about the fact that last week Theresa May unveiled a statue of Nancy Astor - a Nazi supporter who once proclaimed that "Hitler could be the answer to the Jewish problem"? Where is your faux outrage about that? Can you even imagine how much of a field day the media would be having if Corbyn had shown support for this? He would be getting absolutely slaughtered from all sides for it, by a right-wing dominated media who are hell-bent on stopping him at all costs. Can you really not see how obvious it is that the level of criticism he has received over this issue is a direct result of his support for Palestinian rights? There's video footage (from well before 2015) of a former Israeli government minister openly admitting that they frequently use false accusations of antisemitism against other politicians as a means to deflect criticism of their inhumane treatment of the Palestinians. Add in the fact that the JLM - who have been the most vocal about the issue - was essentially dormant up until Corbyn's election, at which time it was re-activated by a group of people with direct links to the Israeli embassy, and you can see a clear pattern emerging. Like I said from the very beginning of this 'crisis' - if anyone is combating antisemitism in Labour, but ignoring it everywhere else, then they're not really combating antisemitism at all, they're actually just a c*nt who is cynically using it as a political weapon. In so doing, they are actually insulting the Jewish community and making them less safe, because it increases the chances of the 'Boy Who Cried Wolf' factor. You make no secret of your dislike of Corbyn, and there are plenty of valid reasons why he deserves criticism. But whenever the AS issue rears its head in the media again, you just love to stick the boot into him over it. You can't help yourself. And you are so blinded by your pre-existing bias against him, you are utterly incapable of recognising that the massively disproportionate level of media coverage this issue has received since he became leader is entirely politically motivated.

While I'm sure he couldn't do any worse than Cedric, I don't think we should be playing Che at RB

Maybe he needs another 'Pep' talk

Never make things easy do we. Should have been completely out of sight by the time Stephens had his standard brain fart and let Pukki in to score. Then the personnel/tactical changes completely shafted us and we find ourselves backs to the wall again. Lucky for us, Norwich's goalscoring form away from home is horrific. Ings proving again what a great buy he was. Long did very well overall and his jump and header to set up Bertrand was superb. Redmond very frustrating, again. Surprised he wasn't subbed off for Boufal, again. Adams looked quite lively when he came on, but we had pretty much retreated by that point so he couldn't get into the game as much as he would have liked. JWP was very good in the first half, but less so in the second. Don't get me started on Cedric. He looked OK earlier in the season, but he's been total dogsh!te recently. Delighted we have grabbed these 6 points that we needed to. If we had dropped points in either of these two games things would be looking very different. Bizarrely, despite how dreadful we have been so far, we're still only 6 points and one less win behind Man Utd in 6th!

Romeu on for Djenepo. We're retreating and trying to hold on then. We all know what happens now, don't we.

Hmmmmm. One chance conceded - one goal. Not taking anything away from Pukki cos it was a brilliant, unstoppable finish. But fook me we like to make life hard for ourselves. We should have been out of sight by now.

Any doubt about the creeping Americanisation of the NHS under successive Tory Health Ministers. Have you even read the article? As for your cretinous attempt to shut down the debate by pointing out that I can't give an exact timescale - as always you are massively over-simplifying things. It's not a case of the whole thing being sold off as a single entity in one single deal. Do you not see that it has already begun? Are you so blind to the carving up of the NHS into smaller bodies and the awarding of contracts to external providers as a primer for the way things are going to go in future? Do the proven strong links between Tory ministers and US healthcare companies not set off loud alarm bells in your head? Or are you so blindly supportive of the Tories that you are prepared to ignore all the warning signs?

Just in case anyone is still in any doubt... https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ournhs/the-president-the-us-private-health-giant-and-top-nhs-officials-special-relationships/

Short of having seen some top secret Tory party documents, how could he possibly be certain of any timescale? It's a f*cking stupid question to ask, and the fact that he (nor any of us) can't answer it doesn't prove anything. If I had to take a wild guess, I would assume that the timescale would in some loose way correlate to the time taken to ratify a trade deal with the US.

https://twitter.com/shahmiruk/status/1202017861532864514 This is the guy who worked for Vote Leave and turned whistleblower. Now let me think - who do I believe? Him, or a bunch of proven corrupt liars? Tough one. Let me get back to you all on that.

You never know, we might win 9-0!

All of which assumes we will be in a stronger negotiating position than the US. Which we won't.

Of course you would. Because anything else would be a tacit acknowledgement that Brexit isn't this wonderful, rosy, amazing fantasy-land that you are so convinced it will be. The whole f*cking point of Brexit is so we can go and do our own trade deals with the US etc... Do you honestly reckon a Tory government would just abandon that completely when (not if) the Trump administration tries to pull our pants down over the NHS? Honestly? If the genuine answer to that is yes, then I've got some magic beans you might be interested in buying.

"The government would “walk away” rather than sign up to an agreement that put the health service at risk, he said." Yeah, sure. Of course Dom. Whatever you say. In a post-Brexit trade deal negotiation with the US, do you honestly expect us to believe that your party would simply walk away if the Americans insist, as they surely will, on market access to the NHS as a deal-breaker?

Case in point: https://twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/1201781873816604672

Jesus. How hard did he kick that table FFS!?

Leaving all personalities aside, what aspects of the Labour manifesto do you consider to be extremist?

But again, just because that happened last season, doesn't mean he is 'prone' to it happening.

His 'horrific" injury record is badly skewed by the fact that he had two very lengthy periods out where he missed an awful lot of games over a number of years. That doesn't mean he is actually injury prone and excessively likely to have multiple periods out for minor injuries each season. I think a lot of people on here overlooked this fact when warning about signing an 'injury prone' player.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/nov/29/rubbish-seaside-a-backhanded-love-letter-to-urban-britain

https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/1200713640195874816 I almost felt sorry for him watching this. I half expected him to drop the mic and run off crying!

It was very unfortunate that the ball bounced off him and right into a perfect path for Sarr to run on to and score. That sort of thing doesn't happen to better players though, does it. Overall, he's not looked too bad since he's come back in, and I like that he is starting to show some of the leadership qualities we have been missing. This is the sort of thing that comes with age and experience. If he could just cut out the sloppy errors he makes 3 or 4 times per game, he would be a decent defender.

Anyway, moving back vaguely in the direction of the actual thread topic, I see the Beeb have capitulated and allowed Johnson to go on the Marr show tomorrow as it is "in the public interest" following the events on London Bridge. Shall we run a sweepstake on how many times he says "get Brexit done" and attempts to throw in the Labour Antisemitism line to a completely unrelated question?