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They got 43% of the vote, but have ended up with 56% of the seats in parliament. This means that even accounting for a handful of rebels in the party, they can push through whatever legislation they want without needing to rely on support from other parties. The net result of this is that over 50% of the electorate effectively have no representation in parliament.

Simply not true. In the last 3.5 years I've seen and spoken to plenty of people who voted leave but have now changed their minds because we were so badly informed in 2016.

No doubt, but there is simply no way of knowing. There were probably a lot of people who voted remain but still went with the Tories this time round because they could never bring themselves to vote for anyone else. The point is that this election result doesn't prove that Brexit is still the will of the people. Only a second ref can confirm that, but it's clearly not going to happen now.

A (very slim, admittedly) majority of the electorate voted for parties backing a 2nd ref. But FPTP means we have ended up with a huge parliamentary majority for a party pushing for a hard Brexit. The notion that they are carrying out 'the will of the people' is false.

The combined total of the Tories and Brexit party vote share was 45.6% The combined total of the Labour, LD, SNP and Green vote share was 50.3% FPTP really does f*cking suck, doesn't it.

Raab and IDS looking like they might lose theirs as well.

This is the only sma consolation for me. But then, BoJo doesn't really know what he wants regarding Europe does he, given that he was supporting remaining in the EU right up until the point when he realised backing leave was most likely to get him into Number 10.

Meh. Not the result I wanted, obviously. But if this exit poll is on the money, as they usually are, then I'll just have to suck it up and make the best of things. A total disaster for Labour - potentially their worst result since Michael Foot in 1983. Pretty devastating for Corbyn against the worst, most inept and spineless leader the Tories have ever elected.

Since I started to take a genuine interest in politics around the time that Blair stepped down and actually bothered to go and vote, I have floated between Lib-Dems, Green and Labour. I usually vote Green in local council elections, as the current Labour council in Sheffield has acted appallingly in recent years, especially in the way it has dealt with the tree protests. I also voted Green in the EU elections in May, and helped to get our former mayor Magid elected thanks to proportional voting. I now live in a safe Labour stronghold, so a vote for anyone else in a GE under our ridiculous FPTP system is completely wasted.

Respect to you. Despite our obvious political differences, I think it's important for people to encourage others to make their voice heard. If people don't bother to vote then they have no right to moan if/when things don't go their way.

Well whatever happens today, and whichever side of the political divide we position ourselves, let's take a moment to all come together to reflect on the fact that, for reasons known only to him, David Cameron has never bothered to delete this tweet from the eve of the 2015 election... https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/595112367358406656?s=19 Seems like such a long time ago now.

You mean vote out the man who wrote a book in which he labelled them 'Hook-noses' and claimed they control the media?

Or vote Tory to keep Pritti Patel in post instead. You know, the woman who was previously forced to resign from the cabinet in disgrace after sneakily plotting to divert UK aid money to a foreign country's military.

It goes a little deeper than that Wes...

Oh dear, Laura Kuenssberg once again proving herself unfit for her position... https://twitter.com/brexit_sham/status/1204770258327887872 Did she learn nothing from what happened the other day?

Has he ever hidden in a fridge to avoid a TV interview?

Nigel Farage in supporting whatever works best for him personally shocker. Proportional voting worked out well for him in the Euro elections in May, but with FPTP he's got little to no hope of getting any MPs into Westminster at a GE.

Another brilliant day for Johnson so far. When asked to do a live interview on GMB, one of his aides tells the reporter to f*ck off, and Johnson hides in a fridge to escape the camera crew. Such a noble, statesmanlike character isn't he.

Yet you're happy to give your vote to a party whose leader refuses to apologise for describing Muslim women as looking like letterboxes.

If you have done some independent research that contradicts this then please share it with us. Otherwise it just looks like you are dismissing it based solely on your own tribal allegiance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50726500 Read it in full and check its sources for yourself, as per my post above.

Wasn't difficult to find if you read the BBC article fully... https://firstdraftnews.org/latest/thousands-of-misleading-conservative-ads-side-step-scrutiny-thanks-to-facebook-policy/ "With 12 days until polling day, the Conservatives massively stepped up its ad campaign on Facebook, running almost 7,000 ads and spending more than £50,000 between November 27 and December 3, according to the latest figures from Facebook’s Ad Library. First Draft accessed the Facebook Ad Library API to download all 6,749 ads from the Conservative Party between December 1 and December 4. Some 88% (5,952) of the most widely promoted ads featured claims about the NHS, income tax cuts, and the Labour Party which had already been labelled misleading by Full Fact."

Might be too late. This is from Sky Sports news... "09:22 WEST LOSING FAITH IN PELLEGRINI West Ham owners are losing faith in manager Manuel Pellegrini, Sky Sports News understands, and discussions are ongoing about whether he is the right man for the job. Last night’s performance against Arsenal is regarded as nowhere near good enough, and while hey desperately do not want to have to change managers mid-season, there are now real concerns about performances."

Call me crazy if you like, but I don't consider that to be the kind of characteristic I want in the man who wants to lead our charge out of Europe and into trade negotiations with sharks like Trump.

I agree to a point. Obviously the PM has no control over a single instance of poor NHS service like that and nobody in their right mind would blame him directly for it. However, Johnson's reaction to it was extremely telling. He was so desperate to avoid looking at the picture that he stole the guy's phone FFS. Did you see the look of panic in his eyes when the reporter challenged him about it? It's like he knew he had dug himself into a hole but had no idea how to get out of it. He was clearly looking for a dead cat to throw on the table. He's a f*cking pathetic excuse for a human being.