Sheaf Saint

While Ken may not exactly be whiter than white, this latest episode seems to be another choreographed stunt by the BBC... http://www.newtekjournalismukworld.com/eileen-kersey/john-mann-pulls-bbc-stunt-ken-livingstone-suspended-from-labour Edit: In fact, if you watch the video of the confrontation, you can clearly see Mann look over to check if the cameras are rolling before he unleashed his tirade. Pathetic opportunism, aided and abetted by a heavily biased BBCDP crew (the Tory leanings of Andrew Neil and Laura Kuenssberg are not in any doubt) looking for a sensational way to undermine Labour. Just like the incident with the live resignation of Stephen Doughty.

Looks like he might be available again soon. There is a huge, massive demonstration going on outside Bramall Lane right now... I'm not sure how he can survive this TBH.

Nobody is making out they deserved it - they clearly didn't. I'm not sure how you arrive at that from what I posted. It's just a simple course of logic that if the fences weren't there then, regardless of what massive f*ckups the police made on the day, nobody would have died. The fences were there because of the culture of violence in football at the time. So, in a very small way, that contributed to the events, but nobody is suggesting it was the sole cause. Clearly the biggest cause was the disastrous handling of the situation by the police. You are correct when you say that the presence of the cages made effective crowd control even more essential, so the fact that it was handled by somebody with no experience and the wrong priorities makes it even more the police's fault.

The stand was unsuitable because of the fences, which were installed because of the reputation football fans had in the 80s for hooliganism. I think the point he is making is... no hooliganism = no fences = no crush = no fatalities.

The Prime Minister said victims’ relatives would never get over the 1989 disaster and likened them to a “blind man, in a dark room, looking for a black cat that isn’t there”. Yeah, that sounds really in favour of them doesn't it.

Think Forster was un-sighted for the second one with2-3 defenders in his line of view, so I'll give him the benefit with that one, but the first one was a little too easy. That's the sacrifice we make with having Tadic in the team. He creates stuff going forward, but he just doesn't track back and pick up the runners from midfield.

Agreed. The worst one was Long's in the first couple of minutes. He breezed past a static defence and into the box, and had time and space to pick his spot with the keeper not rushing out to close down the angles, and he hit the bar. Not good enough Shane, sorry. For some reason it seems that all our attacking players get nervous in the box, and need a 'perfect' chance to score. How often do we see anyone in a Saints shirt hit a first-time shot cleanly and on target? Very rarely. They always seem hesitant. Tadic, Long, Pelle and Mane are all guilty of this, and it is costing us a lot of points. OK it didn't today, but we still wasted far too many chances that we wouldn't even get when playing against a better team. It is definitely something that needs addressing, and I'm glad that RK recognises that.

Amazing that we have just scored 4 away from home and we're still bemoaning our poor finishing. I had £3 on 5-2 @ 125/1 as well

Another miss from Long when he really should be hitting the target.

This is ridiculous. We have been in so much control of this game, and had so many chances, yet here we are with 5 mins to go and only a 1-goal lead.

I'm assuming that's an injury for Wanyama then, rather than a tactical sub.

Doesn't matter how far off target it is - it's still OFF target. It's very simple really.

Seriously? A shot against the post is a shot off target. Ergo it is poor finishing.

Yeah he doesn't seem to be on the pace. But he needs the game time, so I would give him until maybe 60-70 mins and then bring on Mane.

Well it's a good job we did get that second goal when we did. I was just about to post that I hoped we wouldn't come to regret all our missed chances for the umpteenth time this season.

Tidy finish from Long this time - but offside.

Oh J-Rod. Very poor ball there in a promising situation.

Off the woodwork again. Van Dijk this time.

No wonder they hate Lescott. He just stood off and watched while Long headed that in. What on earth happened to him? He used to be a decent defender.

And then tweeted about buying a new Mercedes, then claimed that he didn't mean to and his phone did it accidentally in his pocket!

FFS Shlong - you have no excuses for not hitting the target there. That's shocking.

Long and Rodriguez running against the slowest and worst defence in the PL this season. As long as they get the right balls played through to them, it could be a massacre.

I'm watching the Derby v Sheff Weds game on Sky2, seeing as Wednesday are kind of my second team having lived up here for 12 years now. Lee Mason is refereeing and he's lost the plot - 9 yellow cards in what you couldn't really describe as a dirty game. Derby fans singing Oh when the Rams go marching in FFS. I really hope Wednesday beat them in the playoffs, because my dislike for Derby after what happened in 2007 has never really waned.

He's absolutely right. Look at last weekend's game at Goodison as a case in point - we dominated the game all over the pitch and should have got 3 points. But our lack of killer instinct in front of goal cost us 2. We haven't played badly away this season, with the possible exception of the Bournemouth game where Koeman got the formation hopelessly wrong. Our defensive shape has generally been good and our midfield has been mostly good as well. The only game I can remember where we got thoroughly dominated was at Arsenal, but thankfully Fraser kept them out that night. Aside from that our performances have been pretty good. Even the defeat at Man City we played OK and were the better team for most of the second half, but profligacy in front of goal again cost us, with Tadic wasting a glorious chance to make it 2-2 right before they scored their third. I guess next season it all depends on us having a fit and on form Rodriguez and Austin available. Playing counter-attacking football with those two in the side - one a fast and agile player who can run in behind defences, and the other a poacher with a knack of being in the right place at the right time - hopefully we will score a lot more and we won't be having this discussion this time next year.

You say that, but there was only really one game in that 6-match clean sheet run (away at Arsenal) where he really stood out. In the other 5 games he had very little to do thanks to the defenders in front of him. And when the run came to an end, questions had to be asked of Forster for some of the goals he let in (the Chelsea game for instance). That's why I'm going for Van Dijk. He has been solid and consistent ever since he signed, and not had a single bad game that I can remember.