Just bought 2 pairs of TOMMY Y fronts off Ebay from a designer shop in Oldham, I think the seller was guptatrading, they came the next day in a Aldi carrier bag and the seller sold them as new, they clearly were not, and judging by the crust in the rear seat I recon he'd been wearing them all week. I gave him positive feedback and he knocked a fiver off each pair. Result!!