Saintandy666

In fairness, his great-great-great grandfather was Irish.

This prison is depressing.

Yes, I read the article earlier today. Moronic Mail reader and moronic paper.

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I doubt anyone is that outraged. If anything, it'll be the Mail who are outraged.

I still maintain that just because we don't understand something, it doesn't mean we have to jump to a massive conclusion because science will eventually bring the answer. And to whoever said 'God doesn't change', God changes all the time. How many revisions of the Bible has there been? How many religions are there? How many religions no longer exist?

No, the burden of proof is on those who say he exists totally and 100% so. It's like if I say I had a tennis ball in my hand behind my back and I said to you 'I have a tennis ball in my hand behind my back' and you said 'Prove it' and I said 'No, you prove I don't'. See what I mean?

Oh and just because we can't have all the answers right now it doesn't mean we have to jump to an illogical one. God 'existing' to create the universe comes up with exactly the same problems you say the current theories have with the universe just 'existing'.

There is a hell of a lot of evidence for sciences current theories and none for a God.

If I'm drinking beer I like a Peroni. I don't mind an ale either, but I think ciders are my favourite.

I believe Jesus to have been a real person, doesn't mean the stories surrounding him are correct or that he is the son of God. The Bible is extremely contradictory. In many places it says one thing and it says another in another place, yet it all claims to be the words of an omniscient and omnipotent God. If this were to be true, there would be no contradiction within the Bible. And if someone argues back, but it isn't the actual word of God, it's Gods word as interpreted by man, then it has been changed and it still has contradictions making it illogical on 2 accounts.

Fosters in taste is on level with ****.

With a grand total of 3 members and 0 posts... I think it might just cope!

You can never disprove God. You can however pretty much disprove all of the scriptures claiming to represent God as illogical and factually incorrect.

This is exactly the kind of thing we need on here x50 to whip everyone up into a frenzy of excitement.

Isn't parole normally when you are released early??? Correct me if I am wrong. What I mean is once you have served your full time and done the parole time, you must be then an equal in society with everyone else and must be able to have an equal chance to rise and fall again. I believe at the moment in many cases our criminal justice system doesn't offer this equal chance to rise and fall and instead just dumps our ex-inmates back on the streets to fall back into the same habits. Criminal justice should be about actually stopping people committing crimes as free people, not just giving up on people.

How do you tell the difference though in your criteria? I think everyone should be given the chance. Punishment shouldn't continue beyond their prison sentence.

I hate close season. We need a few 'ITKs' to come and make up some rumours.

No, never. Just no. He isn't welcome at Southampton.

Prison shouldn't all be about nasty stuff and punishment. Obviously, it has to be to a degree unpleasant so people don't wish to return there, but there also needs to be way more rehabilitation than present so people don't end up slipping into the same routine they did before.

Exactly, and that is the thing. I haven't had any experience of prison but those which I have met that do and those I have seen who have and speak about it tell stories of prison that are very different from the 'holiday camp' tales from the mail.

Just means that there are things that are right and things that are wrong. For example, child rape is always wrong. A bit like religion saying this is wrong and this is right. The liberal democratic framework we live in is set up within the idea of an absolute morality, but others have disagreed. Thinkers like Isaiah Berlin said we can't judge stuff like that discussed in this thread because we look at it through the biased prism of liberal democracy. Therefore, we can't be objective and view things in a fair way and so therefore we can't actually say what is right or wrong.

Do you believe in absolute morality?

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Well, that's a shame. But I guess it is only fair.