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But it also doesn't help the fact that he is left so exposed at times. He's had to play against some of th best wide players in the premier league with very little cover. I don't think his positional senses is as bad as some make out.

So, I think to summarise this thread no there aren't a lot of anti Lallana people.

Well he is the figure head isn't he.

You're right about your point about being centre half, but I only used Lovern as an example as he was our most recent signing. We could use the same theory to chaisng other players, would a new striker block Sinclair? Would a new winger block Isgrove? My view of things are is that its unfair to rely on an 18 year old, no matter how good as first choice in that position. Physically they are still growing, they are still learning the game and we don't want to risk burning them out. Young players have peaks and dips in form and confidence and need to be protected as well as developed.If you check all the players you'll mention none of them were first team regulars for premier league sides until they were at least 20. The obvious comparison is Wayne Bridge and whilst he made his debut for us at 18 he started out as a winger and wasn't converted until a left back and become first choice there until he was 20. So it seems its a very, very rare thing for such a young player, regardless of ability, to be thrown in so quickly.

Whilst what you say is true, the fact of the matter is we entered last season under equipped at left back. Shaw was 17 and Fox was not the man for the job and the club also seemed to agree hence the move for Buttner And the last minute attempts to bring in Martin Olsen. No one had any idea how Shaw would fair and the fact he didn't start the season suggests the management weren't confident he was ready. Fortunately for us it did work out and Shaw has proven himself an excellent player although still learning and he picked up a few niggles throughout the season but I can't help but think that this was more down to good fortune than good decision making.

Along with three quarter length shorts and reebok classics, yes?

Spot on mate.

I thought that was you. Is the kid covering his ears yours too?

I don't buy all this stuff about buying players in blocking the progress of youngsters. Not too many people complained about us bringing in Lovern, why didnt people claim his signing was blocking Jack Stephens progress? Its a a squad game these days and you need good players as well as young players and its also a dangerous game to play to expect youngsters to do too much to quickly. If the youngester is good enough then they will get their chance and if they are better than the incumbent then they stay in the side. they will benefit more from being eased into the first team rather than thrown in at the deep end and sink or swim.youre talking about 17 and 18 year olds here whose body's aren't developed yet and are still learning the game, if they were early 20s then its a different story, in reality how many 17 and 18 year olds play most of their games and are first choice in their position at other premier league clubs?

The Fox hate on here is pathetic, he was signed in the championship and was a very competent championship left back and a key part of the way we played under Adkins in the championship, as the amount of assists Fox and Richardson got that season will testify. He isn't a a premier league player, anyone can see this, but like Sharp, Richardson, Hammond and Davis did the job he was brought in to do, the only difference is the the others were replaced by better players so are viewed as heroes who did their job in the championship and were part of a great team. Whereas we failed to bring in a left back last summer, so Fox is viewed as some useless out of depth clown who should never play for us again.

Colin will be pleased that people are backing his save our stripes campaign, he's probably posting now wearing his new saints shirt.

More positive news from daily Fail (PMSL) they seem to be th paper of choice promoting the Southampton way. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2380110/Besiktas-1-Southampton-3-Lambert-Mayuka-grab-goals-Saints-pull-impressive-win.html

It's a perfectly valid point that people constantly slate the daily fail (PMSL) but it has actually been on of the most supportive and positive papers regarding SFC, regularly running positive stories. It's remarkable that people would believe or take these with any credence when they constantly describe it as a vile paper full of lies.

Hilarious that yet another thread is ruined by people moaning about other posters, I get name checked several times despite only contributing two of the 80 posts on this thread. Some of delicate little flowers on here seem to be working themselves up into a frothy state about me ruining a thread I've barely even posted on!! Of ever there was an example of how precious, obsessed and weird some of the helmets are on here this is it!

Hello madman, how is your therapy going?

I take it all back, it is possible for that to be funny. That had me LOLing massively, excellent work. :lol:

He is little though.

And taller.

I agree. I can't believe so many people have been sucked on by a PR stunt from the club in a vile, racist newspaper. Some people really need to look at themselves!

I'm amazed anyone has taken an article in the daily Fail (PMSL) we all know its an absolute sham of a paper full of lies and racism. Isn't it everyone.

I wouldn't go that far, he's clearly driven and ambitious and like most successful business people has that ruthless steak but you need that to be successful. He may not be a nice bloke and the cup of tea for run of the mill ordinary folk with their meaningless humdrum existence but he's not a bellend.

Who can put a value on riches? It's all relative

What a hero. Love the guy.

If I had a pound for everyone on here that claims they don't usually agree with me or are embarrassed to agree with me then I'd be a very rich man.

Daily fail at it again FFS. Lying bullsh**ters making this up. Disgraceful paper.