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but he quite clearly says that they aren't made up and come from a source which is checked. Hilarious Les telling people thier arguement is weak and trying to argue what journalists might do with someone who has worked at two national newspapers.

do be ridiculous. Lallana hasn't been injured as much as Jarvis so is worth well more than that. tajjuk told us this.

Yep, because asking people to justify why lallana is worth more than Jarvis is EXACTLY the same as saying Lallana is worth £15m. EXACTLY the same. You seem to be confusing yourself. On the one hand saying that when Jarvis was premier league player he was valued at £15m, yet when he wasn't his value dropped, yet earlier castigating me for using AOC as an example of a talented young none premier league player. So are we comparing like for like or not? £15m was the mongboard forums valuation, £15m was Jarvis premier league status valuation. You even said yourself Lallanas value would drop if we went down. It's not difficult is it, you provided the figures yourself. Their values are not disimilar.

Still on ignore yet still replying. Go on Les, keep going

Anti Saints agenda!!! They weren't sold out though were they. What's your point? I'm simply point out that exactly the same game attracted a bigger attendance when it was on a friday night and live on television and in a lower divison. We were promised attendances would go massively UP this season, it seems in this case they are actually going down.

This wasnt a factor in the predicted "mad scramble for tickets" only 4 months ago.

Nixon was a classic. He was stalked by many on here, his word was gospel. Except for example the week before the transfer window when he said that we didn't know which centre back we wanted and that it we weren't in a good position. Then he was clueless, how would he know what was going on at our club and who we were interested in? etc etc.

I will when MLG admits he was wrong.

Really? it's not intentional I'm still on ignore, he announces it regularly. Anyway, we've got on much better since i came off your list. We are not that disimilar you and I.

He was one. Franks Cousin was another and of course Wes Ender, with his "of course we need a 50k stadium now and can easily fill it, didn't they say man would never walk on the moon" logic.

Les has it in for me after i mugged him off about prisons on the lounge when he started bleating on about them based on stuff he'd read in the newspapers. Ever since then he's had it in for me and likes to try and score points. which is quite sad for a man who is clearly in his latter years, but then considering he hasn't developed a personality or sense of humour in that time should come as no surprise.

it does!!! Ive been looking around this morning and doing some research, i can trade in the car and whatever they give me on it i can use the equity as a deposit on a new finance agreement. I balleds up getting a Saab to be honest, looked at similar cars like A4's, 3 series etc and the Saab was much cheaper for the year and mileage, it's been a false economy though as i've probably spent more in repair bills than i would have for getting a more reliable brand and paying a bit more. It's what to get next that is now the question.......

I'm offended and have reported your post.

Yep, over and over again we were told how wrong we were. that we sold out every game easily and there were thousands of fans being turned away every week and thousands more who didn't bother trying as they knew games would be sold out. We were told endlessly how massive our catchment area was an how there were thousands of people in Cirencester, Truro, Trowbride and Lewes who would come to Southampton to see premier league football. We were told we needed a bigger stadium NOW and that there was going to be a made scramble for tickets week in week out. It doesn't seem to be quite working out how we were told it would.

How do you know Les? I thought you had me on ignore? WHy are you reading discussion i am involved in?

Once again you're struggling i see. I asked people to explain why Lallana is worth so much more than Jarvis, who cost £10.75m, you were at pains to stress all the reasons why Lallana is better and worth more. Then you say yourself that as a premier league player he was linked with moves for £15m, hang on a minute, *fag packet maths* 3 x £5m, oh that's right, it's £15m! So actaully as premier league players their values aren't that disimliar are they. Has it dropped yet? Or are you going to ramble on about being younger, called for england once, something about not being injured this season again?

and correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't this at a time when we had no investment or champions league ambtions?

If you read the aticle properly you'd see they took the initial allocation of 1700, they've now got 2,500. the full away allocation is 3,200, which they sold last season.

i think you're confusing yourself sunshine. I clearly asked people to come up with reasons as to why lallana is worth more than Jarvis, the "treble" NEwcastles bid. You then came up with this whole host of reasons as to why he is worth more, then render your arguement pointless as you remember yourself Jarvis being linked with moves for exactly the same fee that NEwcastle trebling their bid would be. I've never claimed he was worth £15m or what Jarvis is worth, simply said that no one can justify why Lallana should be worth so much more. No amount of multi quoting by you is going to change that.

was that in the days of dynamic pricing or didnt we need it back then?

They are the Wigan of the south.

Could see him working in a 4-3-2-1 Lambert up top with him and Ramirez behind with licence to roam and then cork, Davis and MS behind them, like you say he isnt a wide player or a central midfielder.

Have I? Or is it you? you were arguing the toss that Lallana is worth more and coming up with all these reasons and patronsiing comments to me as to why this was the case. that he didnt want to leave. that he's a premier league player. that he's younger. that he's recently had an England call up. That he's important to us. Then go onto say that you personally remember Jarvis was linked with a £15m move when he was a premier league player at wolves, which by an amazing coincidence was exactly the same figure that a lot on here claimed Lallana is worth. So like for like, their values aren't that disimilar. which was EXACTLY my point, something you proved yourself.

IN April we sold out for a friday night game that was live on telly. Reading also brought a full allocation of 3,200. THey haven't sold out their smaller allocation and we haven't sold out the home sections for a saturday 3pm kick off in the Premier League. I thought we were GUARENTEED to see bigger crowds in the Premier League? What is happening? Arguably this game is just as big as its a relegation six pointer, apathy seems to rule at the moment amoungst both sets of fans.

He also doesnt seem to strike the ball very cleany in front of goal. often seems to scuff his shot rather than hit it cleanly. He's good and i like seeing him play for Saints but he's not a top 6 club player and he's a bit like Joe Cole in that you couldn't really say what his best position was. still he's our captain, might get in the England squad one day and not been ijured for a while so must be worth at least £15m.