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Why would you want to be part of a religion which didn't approve of the way you conducted your life? WHy would you be a devout *insert name of religion* if you did not live by their principle? And unless you were a devout *insert name of relgion* why do you care if they bless you or not?

Im not saying they should be. However if i was gay and the religion i may have been raised in didn't approve of my sexuality, then i would no longer be part of that religion so wouldn't want it's blessing. Surely this makes perfect sense. You might not be able to choose your sexuality but you can choose your religion. I dont understand why you would want to be part of something that didn't approve of you and then by default want the approval of something that you weren't part of.

It's difficult to assume that someone is correct when they are an 18 year old hetrosexual talking about why gay people want to gay married and appearing to speak on their behalf.

They continued this notion during the early games of last season, even when it soon became apparant the only thing he had in his locker was pace. The same thing is happening with Tanadari Lee, we've been told many times on here what a great player he is and he's going to have a massive impact, based on seeing him play against Derby and Barnsley last season.

I dont need a BBC report to explain it, i'm fully aware. What i'm saying is why cant gay people by happy with civil partnerships and use it as celebration of their sexuality, rather than considering it in some way a lesser relationship? why not be proud and say to the world "We're gay, we dont do marriages, Civil partnerships are our thing!" rather than having the chip on the shoulder that your relationship as a homosexual is in someway worth less than that of a hetrosexual person.

Ince without question.

But why not celebrate what you've got? Be proud of your civil partnership, use it in a positve way to express your homosexuality and how happy and comfortable they are with it. Why do they want to be the same at hetrosexual couples? It might lead to hetosexuals wanting civil partnerships instead of marriage!!!

We have no cover for that position at all. Whats Iago Falque up to these days? HCDAJFU.

True, and Lallana wont even need to to fly back to Ecuador for knee surgery every five minutes.

Quite. We keep being told the church needs to move with the times. Well if it's that arachic and bigotted why do they wants it's blessing?

Is it? He appears to be speaking for gay people and what they want.

It's not though is it. Gay people can have a civil partnerships, why not celebrate that fact. Why not be proud of what you have and celebrate that being your thing, rather than wanting something else.

Really? are you speaking for them Andy? You know this the case do you?

Looking on the brightside, if he's injured for the whole of January and after he wont be leaving.

Why do they want the blessing of the church though? Why not be happy with what they have?

Unfortunately it's the way the thread developed after BTF raised the issue or religion in schools.

Im not sure what your take on mulitcultualism is and i cant be arsed to wade through your posts to find it, but if you are pro it then you really should celebrate the fact that parents can choose if they wish their child to be educated in a school which reflects their faith.

Apart from the first marriage on record which was between Adam and Eve and was when Eve was created by god, yes?

Great play from Lambert for the goal on saturday wasnt it.

What's harsh about it? We looked tired in the second half against Norwich, we didn't make an attacking change until the 88th minute. We didn't turn up against Liverpool and didn't change it until 12 minutes to go. why are tactics that hadn't worked for 60 minutes suddenly going to start working? We could potentially have had 4 points from those games with a bit more ambition from the manager, we got 1.

Prehaps, but at Liverpool by all accounts it hadn't worked for 60 minutes, so not quite sure why he though it was suddenly going to change if this is the case. At Norwich it was clear some players were fading and we needed to freshen things up, that didnt happen for whatever reason and on another day it could have cost us as Norwich were on top for a lot of the second half whilst we looked jaded.

Dont you think it's great that parents and children have the opportunity to send their children to a school of their faith though? As i've said before, just because religion isn't important to you, that isn't the case for everyone. Personally i think its fantastic that we have a government and as a society we are so keen to embrace peoples right to choice and freedom of worship.

the same as they always have been. A good manager who was let down by those around him in the transfer window. He's still tactically naive at times and seems frightend to make changes sometimes. For example Liverpool away, 1-0 down and playing badly he waiting until the 70th minute to make a change, then it was like for like and the only attacking change came with 12 minutes to go. Same with Norwich, we needed more energy and to freshen things up but we changed the left back with 5 to go and the only attacking change was with 2 minutes to go. Hopefully he'll continue to develop as a manager as he has done and he'll also be given the players he wants in January.

I'm sorry. i dont understand what you mean. Religion may not be important to you or i in our daily lives, but it is to many peoeple and still has a effect on our lives overall and of those around us, do you not agree?

I pay my taxes in good faith and i trust the government to spend them in the way they see fit. It's my obligation as a hard working member of a cultural melting pot to pay tax, if some of that money goes to faith schools which parents want to send their children too, then that is fine by me. The government wastes far more money on other things than giving parents the right to send their children to a school of their own faith. I applaud the government for making this possible.